Afternoon summary
Peers have inflicted two defeats on the government over the illegal migration bill. In the first, they voted by a majority of 43 to insert a clause in the bill saying saying nothing in it would require any act that would breach the UK’s obligations under various human rights treaties. And in the second, which took place just now, they voted by 219 to 177 – a majority of 42 – in favour of an amendment tabled by the crossbench peer Lord Carlile saying the duty to deport in the bill would only apply to people arriving in the UK after it came into force, not retrospectively, as the government proposes. The debate is still going on, and further votes are expected.
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Ken Clarke tells peers he's backing illegal migration bill because he has not heard any alternative solution
There was some surprise good news for the government in the Lords debate on the second set of amendments to the illegal migration bill. Ken Clarke, the former chancellor who is now normally seen as being on the most liberal wing of the Conservative party, told peers that he was supporting the government on the bill. He voted with the government in the first division (on amendment 5), and when he spoke he said that previously he had not declared his views on the bill.
He said that when it originally came to the Lords, he was in a “very, very troubled state of mind” because he found it hard to support. But he said that he accepted something needed to be done about people crossing the Channel on small boats, and he said the bill’s opponents did not have an alternative solution. He said:
Concern about these dinghies and fishing boats bobbing on the ocean is actually beginning, if we’re not careful, to re-arouse all the bad feelings that we used to know from 20 or 30 years ago. That’s why over 60% of our population wish to stop illegal immigration.
I’ve sat and tried to listen for a solution. Sadly, the only solution being put forward is this rather extraordinary one by the government, that we simply cease to entertain illegal immigration and deport to safe places. I have not heard a single alternative policy put forward. I’m not sure it will work but I’m still to hear anybody else offer anything but the possibility of litigation, or huge numbers of people coming here as the practice of trying to get over the Channel grows.
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