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You don’t need to have fun at work—take it from NBA head coach Joe Mazzulla: ‘Fun is a cop-out sometimes when things aren’t going well’

Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla stands on the court with his arms folded (Credit: Sam Hodde—Getty Images)

It was Kids Day at Boston’s TD Garden a couple of weeks back, and while children were given the opportunity to pose questions to their hometown NBA team, the Boston Celtics, head coach Joe Mazzulla did not pull any punches in his responses. But one particular exchange stood out. When Sports Illustrated Kids reporter Rusty Smith asked Mazzulla how he balances “pushing players to improve while also keeping the game fun for them,” the 37-year-old championship-winning coach did not mince words, or offer platitudes.

“I struggle with that, to be honest with you,” Mazzulla said. “I think everyone has a different definition of fun, and you have to find one as a team. I think fun’s a cop-out sometimes when things aren’t going well. Everyone likes to say, ‘Well, let’s just have fun.’ Well, what does that mean, you know? So you have to define what fun looks like as a team, and you have to go after that. But that phrase can be a cop-out sometimes. So as you get older, kid, don’t use it. You know? ‘I just want to have fun.’ Well, what does that mean?”​

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