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Top Pentagon official recalls the 'whoa moment' when defense leaders realized how indispensable Anthropic is and saw the risk of losing access

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The Defense Department’s reliance on Anthropic’s AI came as a shocking realization that ultimately led to their dramatic schism, according to a top Pentagon official.

Emil Michael, the department’s under secretary for research and engineering as well as its chief technology officer, detailed the events leading up to the public feud in a Friday episode of the All-In podcast.

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