
As he bids to guide Penrith to a fourth consecutive NRL premiership, Ivan Cleary has lifted the lid on the conversation that saw him ditch a career in property and take his first steps on the path to coaching greatness.
A phone call with former Roosters chief executive Bernie Gurr more than 20 years ago can be seen as the start of Cleary's journey from reluctant coach and prospective real estate agent to a great of the modern game.