Tim Campbell may have sat alongside Lord Alan Sugar having won The Apprentice, but he was never afraid of the businessman.
In fact, Tim, 45, has revealed he was more worried about meeting those he was competing against during his stint on the show back in 2005.
The businessman who appeared on the first series of the show went on to win a £100,000 per annum job with Lord Sugar, before sitting alongside him and Baroness Karren Brady on the panel in 2022.
Now, Tim is an ambassador for T-levels, which allows school leavers the opportunity to gain an industry-recognised qualification, the equivalent of three A Levels.
Speaking to The Mirror about his time on the programme, Tim said: "The scariest part of the whole process is when you walk into the room first and you see everybody else you're competing against.
"Up until that point, you don't know who's in the room.
"I think the difference what we do with T levels is that we're giving everybody that information about who they're competing against who they're applying with, what organisations are going to do in advance so there are no one unknowns.
"In The Apprentice there's a lot of that first bit of unknown thing where you walk into the boardroom waiting area, and you look around and go 'Oh my gosh', everyone is suited and booted to the nines and they're all ready to challenge and compete against you."
The businessman who has been awarded an MBE added: "With the T-level candidates, the only person they have to compete against is the ignorance that sometimes around not knowing what is available.
"That's why this campaign is so important because we're highlighting what is available so it takes away that fear of not knowing."
Reflecting on the programme which ventures away from the typical academia route, Tim said: "That's one of big things which attracted me to this is an inclusive programme.
"This isn't about people who got Nines or A*s as it was in my day or people who are disadvantaged, this is about everybody being socially mobile."
Tim highlighted: "It's really important, The Gatsby Foundation, their research basically said that most adults, carers and guardians, 13% of them feel that they aren't clued up on what the next generation should be doing with education.
"But when you actually ask the young people, they look to those parents and guardians for information about what they should be doing and 66% of them were saying that's where they actually look for.
"That disconnect is it was evident in the research, but it also showed that we have to do more about educating those parents and guardians."
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