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The Guardian - UK
The Guardian - UK
Politics
Andrew Sparrow

Keir Starmer dismisses king’s speech as ‘exercise in economic miserabilism’ – as it happened

Johnson did say he would rather 'let bodies pile high' than order another lockdown, Covid inquiry told

At PMQs in April 2021 Boris Johnson categorically denied saying that he had would rather “let the bodies pile high” than agree to a further lockdown. He was responding to a question from Keir Starmer, who asked if it was true that Johnson had made the remark in late October 2020, as he agreed to a second lockdown.

Dominic Cummings subsequently told a Commons committee that he had heard Johnson make the remark. But Cummings’ evidence was not enough to trigger an investigation into whether or not Johnson had lied to MPs, partly because he clearly had a grudge against Johnson and some MPs questioned his credibility.

At the Covid inquiry hearing today an extract from Ed Lister’s witness statement was shown saying he heard Johnson make this remark. Lister is a highly credible witness who hasn’t fallen out with Johnson. Assuming he is right, the only defence Johnson would have against the charge that he told a direct lie to Starmer at PMQs would be timing; Starmer asked if Johnson had made the comment in October, but Lister said he heard Johnson use the phrase in September.

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