Nottingham Forest manager Steve Cooper smiled, and then attempted to sum up the emotion and stress experienced by a manager chasing promotion.
Will he enjoy the play-offs? “Is any of it enjoyable?! I don’t know if enjoyable is the word for any of this job!,” replied the former Swansea and England U17 boss.
It was a response that reflected a chaotic end to the regular season against Hull on Saturday. Brennan Johnson smashed home a 92nd minute penalty to keep them third in the league… only for Lewis Keane-Potter to equalise in the 94th minute, with Forest slipping a place.