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The Guardian - UK
The Guardian - UK
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Miranda Sawyer

Rubina Pabani and Poppy Jay: ‘We’re not sexperts – we’re sex clowns’

Poppy Jay, in a green dress, and Rubina Pabani in a multicoloured check dress, using a hairdryer as a DIY wind machine
Poppy Jay, left, and Rubina Pabani photographed in London by Suki Dhanda for the Observer. Hair and makeup by Violet Zeng. Photograph: Suki Dhanda/The Observer

In a photographers’ studio, two successful professional women in brightly coloured frocks and golden earrings are having their photos taken. On the right is Rubina Pabani, head of short form at ITN Productions (“I work in podcast and video, pitch, put teams together”), currently on maternity leave for her first child. On the left, Poppy Jay, investigative documentary producer-director of 24 Hours in Police Custody and the Bafta-nominated Queens of Rap. But their day jobs are not why we are here. We’re here – there is no way of sugar-coating this – because of their sex lives. As well as holding down impressive media careers, Poppy and Rubina are the tell-all hosts of the podcast Brown Girls Do It Too, which has just started its third series on BBC Sounds. Their subject matter? Sex. Specifically, sex as experienced by British South Asian women.

“Oh, we’re definitely not sexperts, we’re sex clowns,” says Rubina, 34. “We’re the silliest, most open person in the room, the one that encourages everyone to join in, to be silly and free…”

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