'We were that close' says Jim Brennan as he holds up his index finger and thumb to the camera from his home in Toronto.
Brennan was a key component of the Nottingham Forest team which came within touching distance of promotion to the Premier League 18 years, as they swept aside Derby County on the way - more on that later.
Ultimately the left-back and team-mates suffered a heartbreaking play-off defeat to Sheffield United, but Brennan still follows Forest closely and feels this season could finally be the one.