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Eleanor Pringle

Melinda Gates told her daughter Phoebe to ‘get up or get out the game’ when investors kept asking about her plans to have kids

Sophia Kianni and Phoebe Gates attend the alice + olivia By Stacey Bendet Pride Event With Performance By Paris Hilton on June 13, 2024 in New York City. (Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images for alice + olivia) (Credit: Dimitrios Kambouris—Getty Images for alice + olivia)
  • While pitching their fashion pricing startup Phia, founders Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni faced repeated questions from investors about how having children might affect their business. In response, they’ve emphasized the importance of documenting achievements to prove professional value and push back against such bias, with Gates advising women to “keep a win sheet” to assert their worth.

When pitching to investors, recent graduates Phoebe Gates and her business partner Sophia Kianni didn’t expect the topic of their potential future children to be brought up.

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