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Lifestyle
Serena Fokschaner

Inner peace: from clutter to calm at a house in southeast London

Ellie Gibson London Podcast
Zen zone: the outdoor dining space awash with gentle greenery.
Zen zone: the outdoor space awash with gentle greenery. Photograph: Lol Johnson/The Observer

I hadn’t expected my interview with Ellie Gibson to open with a discussion about spice jars. Or to be precise: alphabetically organised ones. The comedian is the co-founder – along with Helen Thorn – of Scummy Mummies: a podcast dedicated, as she puts it, to the “hard, messy, funny… and humiliating” realities of family life.

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