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The Guardian - UK
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As told to Dave Simpson

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Vini Reilly, centre, with producer Keir Stewart, left, and drummer Bruce Mitchell larking about in a garden
‘Asked what kind of music we played, I piped up: “Avant garde jazz classical.” It was a joke, but it stuck’ … Vini Reilly, centre, with producer Keir Stewart, left, and drummer Bruce Mitchell. Photograph: Michael Steff

Vini, you’ve created some of the most beautiful, ethereal music of the last 40 years. Is it true that in your youth you were in a violent Manchester street gang? Songy24
Vini Reilly [guitars, vocals, keyboards]: Gangs then had a different meaning. It was just “their lot” and “our lot”. We’d sling insults at each other. Then you’d play football in the park and realise you were playing with the local thugs. They were actually very funny, and I could have fun with them because I was so little. At the time I’d been going through a recurring depressive illness and felt I didn’t fit in at home, so I left without any clean clothing. I wanted to end my life so I decided to go to Moss Side, where the gangsters would shoot me. Of course they didn’t. I’d had a very happy childhood until my father died when I was doing my O-levels, but I’ve come to the conclusion that the really bad things gave me more than they could ever take. How can you know happiness until you’ve known deep sadness?

Bruce Mitchell [drums]: Vini does kick off, though, properly battles. We had to section him once, and six people had to hold him down.

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