"Listen, if Penny Mordaunt can do it so can the GC", says Gemma Collins, offering her views on her reality TV co-star's chances in the Conservative leadership race.
But despite going head-to-head against the potential new Prime Minister in 2014 during season two of Tom Daley’s ITV diving show Splash!, Gemma admits she has no recollection of the trade minister.
Chatting to us from her gloriously sunny garden with elephant statues behind her, and dressed in a bright pink swimsuit, Gemma offers her apologises: "I can’t remember her, sorry Penny.