So what next after Newcastle's biggest defeat of the season? Well obviously not a cull of one of the most successful Magpie teams of recent times but a serious consideration of options.
Either Eddie Howe sweeps Aston Villa 3 United 0 into the dustbin of history and sends the same troops out to redeem themselves home to Spurs or sees warning signs which require an injection of fresh ideas and legs.
Those who will be pushing for a call to arms? Well of course many enter the queue when rare failure opens a door.
