Declan Rice toes the party line for a while, talking about how far this England squad has come, about the promise of its core of young talent, about how they are now back in the elite pack of international teams.
But deep down, he knows that for a nation with such a depth of talent, such a heritage, failing to win a major trophy for 56 years is not good enough.
“Ultimately,” says Rice, “international football is based on what you win and we haven't won for years. I think sometimes the negativity surrounding us will go away once we have won something again, I think there will always be that pressure on us.”