Why this chaplain sees her atheism as a gift

Vanessa Zoltan says the theology that she was raised in was the Holocaust. (Vanessa Zoltan)

To start these conversations, I usually ask the guest to define their spiritual identity. And when I asked this of author Vanessa Zoltan, she replied that she's a Jewish atheist.

That is interesting enough, but within a couple minutes it started to become clear that what actually defines her outlook on the world and her spiritual life is the Holocaust.