
On this week’s episode of Fortune‘s Leadership Next podcast, co-hosts Alan Murray and Michal Lev-Ram talk with DaVita CEO Javier Rodriguez about the reasons health care payers need to help catch illnesses before they become life threatening; hiring caregivers when unemployment is low; A.I. and other technologies; and why it's not always a "linear path to the top."
Listen to the episode or read the full transcript below.