For Richard Wyn Jones, the next 10 years will be defined by what he sees as the existential crisis in which the UK is plunged.
He began by saying: “Anybody who’s taken an interest in Welsh politics over the last few decades has learnt to be very cautious.
“Who would have said in 1979 that we would eventually get devolution in 1997? Who would have said, given the narrowness of the margin in the ‘97 referendum, that we’d end up in a situation where the overwhelming majority of the people in Wales consistently support devolution, want more of it etc?