It's fair to say the retirements of Alun Wyn Jones and Justin Tipuric just four months out from the Rugby World Cup sent shockwaves through Welsh rugby.
They will be remembered in the top echelon of Wales internationals, certainly in the modern era, and can quite rightly look back on their careers with great pride
But putting the eulogising to once side, what does this actually mean for Warren Gatland whose Wales squad get together to start preparing for the World Cup in a matter of days?