Talking Europe speaks to Kersti Kaljulaid, who was the first and only female president of Estonia, from 2016 to 2021. Her name has been linked to the top job in NATO, as Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg is expected to step down this autumn. We discuss her potential interest in the job, as well as her view on the current levels of support for Ukraine, both in NATO and the European Union.
The former Estonian president implies that it's time for a leader from the Baltics or Eastern Europe to lead NATO – they have never had a secretary general – and pays tribute to the incumbent, Jens Stoltenberg, who has been in the job for nearly nine years.