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Rebecca Russell & Siobhan Macdonald

Title that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'turned down' for son Archie

Prince William and Kate Middleton's three children - Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis - are likely to hold impressive titles like the Prince of Wales or the Princess Royal as they grow up.

However, this isn't the case for all of the late Queen's great grandchildren as some will never gain an official style. This could be the case for King Charles' other two grandchildren, Archie and Lillibet Mountbatten-Windsor, after Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have moved away from the Royal Family, reports the Mirror.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex stepped down as working royals in 2020, and have moved to California with their children to work on their own projects. The couple have worked on a Netflix documentary, which is set to be released in early 2023, as well as Harry's bombshell memoir set to hit the shelves in January.

There has been recent speculation regarding whether the new King will grant Archie and Lillibet princely titles, or whether the monarch will go against the grain and change a historic decree made by his great-great grandfather in 1917. Some royal experts believe Charles could be delaying any official announcement on the subject until the release of Harry's memoir 'Spare', which has previously vowed to offer “raw, unflinching honesty”.

When Harry and Meghan’s son Archie was born on May 6, 2019 at the Portland Hospital in London, it was unthinkable to imagine the events that have taken place since. It was revealed shortly after his birth that he would be officially known as Master Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor, rather than Prince Archie of Sussex.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are joined by her mother, Doria Ragland, as they show their new son, born Monday and named as Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor, to the Queen Elizabeth II and the Duke of Edinburgh at Windsor Castle. (CAMERA PRESS/ROTA)

The reason for this at the time came down to Letters Patent by King George V in 1917 where he wrote that all the children of the sovereign, the male-line grandchildren and the Prince of Wales’s eldest son were all allowed to hold a princely title.

While circumstances have now changed, it was explained at the time that Archie was entitled to hold his father’s subsidiary title but it was rejected by Harry and Meghan over fears “about how that might look”. At the time of their wedding, the late Queen made Prince Harry and Meghan the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, the Earl and Countess of Dumbarton and the Baron and Baroness Kilkeel.

In line with royal tradition, Archie was to be styled as the Earl of Dumbarton as it is the subsidiary style of his father’s official title. But according to a report in The Telegraph, the new parents didn’t want their son to be known by a title that contained the word ‘dumb’.

(PA)

The report says: "They didn’t like the idea of Archie being called the Earl of Dumbarton because it began with the word ‘dumb’ [and] they were worried about how that might look."

A second source added that it wasn't just Meghan's concern, but that it "also bothered Harry." The question of whether Archie and Lilibet will be granted princely titles remains unsolved as circumstances have greatly changed since the late Queen passed away.

As the Letters Patent from 1917 allows grandchildren of the sovereign to be styled as a prince or a princess, many imagined the pair would be given the titles by their grandfather, but it is an issue that remains unanswered.

Harry previously said it was unsafe to come to Britain with his wife, Meghan Markle, and two children (INSTAGRAM)

Investigative journalist and author Tom Bower recently aired his thoughts on why King Charles may choose to withhold Archie and Lilibet's titles, and why their futures rely on what is stirred from Prince Harry’s upcoming 416-page memoir ‘Spare’.

Bower explained that he believes Harry’s book - which has reportedly caused a “tsunami of fear” to stir behind palace walls - will be the ultimate "make or break" for the pair. The author told The Sun : "This book is really make or break. I imagine that King Charles has been warned that any retaliation won't be pretty.

"All that King Charles can really do is to withhold the titles for his grandchildren Archie and Lilibet. Ultimately, I suppose, he could take away Harry and Meghan's titles as well, but that's pretty drastic. I don't know what else he can do. If it is as bad as I think it is, then Harry and Meghan have gone fully rogue."

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