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The Guardian - UK
The Guardian - UK
Lifestyle
Emma Beddington

The world’s happiest man? Matthieu Ricard on the secrets of a serene, successful, satisfying life

‘The more you experience happiness, the more it gets deeper, vaster, resistant to circumstances …’ Matthieu Ricard
‘The more you experience happiness, the more it gets deeper, vaster, resistant to circumstances …’ Matthieu Ricard. Photograph: Magali Delporte/The Guardian

I get anxious about interviews, I tell Matthieu Ricard moments after he appears on my computer screen in his red and saffron robes, his background, somewhere in the Dordogne region of France, discreetly blurred. He starts laughing uproariously before I can even get my confession out; he laughs frequently and infectiously throughout our call. “Really? In your job?” Yes, I reply. Does anything make him anxious? He considers the question. “Yes, missing planes or trains. Besides that, I don’t have many worries.”

This interview in particular feels intimidating. Ricard, 77, combines the rigour of a French intellectual (he has a PhD in cellular genetics, has written books on altruism, meditation and compassion for animals and translated numerous Buddhist texts into French and English) with the wisdom you get from 50-plus years of intense spiritual practice. I have the profundity of a Pop Tart and told a fruit fly to fuck off this morning; of course I’m anxious.

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