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"The Axios Show": Jamie Dimon on Trump, running for office and Epstein

JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon gave an impassioned defense of the Iran war, dismissed the idea of running for office and pointed at plans for his post-CEO future in an interview with Jim VandeHei for a new episode of "The Axios Show."

Why it matters: Dimon, who once served as chairman of the Business Roundtable, has outsized influence in the American business landscape.


The big picture: Dimon was reluctant to criticize President Trump across a number of issues.

  • On the Iran war, Dimon dismissed the criticism that there was no imminent threat facing the U.S.: "They've been killing people around the world for 45-plus years. They've killed a lot of Americans. They've funded Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis ... they have terrorist cells here."
  • Asked for his single biggest disappointment about Trump, Dimon said: "I don't want to say here."
  • He did indicate he's considered some Trump moves heavy-handed: "I just think sometimes he raises some wonderful issues — things that universities should have been doing a better job at. But I'm not in favor of taking away all their R&D."

Epstein

Dimon pinned blame for the years of inaction against Jeffrey Epstein on the federal government.

  • "Why didn't the government do something about it all those years? He was abusing these young women. They knew," Dimon said.

Zoom out: JPMorgan has been scrutinized for having Epstein as a client until 2013. The company settled with victims for $290 million in a 2023 case that accused the company of facilitating Epstein's long-running abuse.

Running for office

Often floated as a potential presidential candidate, Dimon shot down the idea that he would run.

  • He called the idea of running for president "quixotic," and suggested he prefers his place atop JPMorgan.
  • "Plus we're so tough on our politicians. We just annihilate them and I just think it's wrong."

What comes next

When he relinquishes the CEO title, Dimon said "the current plan would be that I stay as executive chairman for a while." He also went into detail on why he's interested in starting a media company, which could focus on policy.

  • "Media teaches everybody. Media's the great influencer. We all wake up in the morning. We read media. I read an awful lot."

Policymakers and their staff are often consuming media before making influential decisions, he said.

  • "If you think of senators, congressmen, administrative officials, regulators, governors, mayors and all of their staff ... we have to do a good job at that. And in some ways we haven't."
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