Ryan Yates has had detractors ever since he broke into the Nottingham Forest first team.
However, the Reds vice captain put in perhaps his best performance for the club in Saturday's 1-0 win over Liverpool as he continues to win over detractors. Such was the level of his performance there have even been tentative suggestions he can make his way into Gareth Southgate's World Cup thinking with a whopping 55-man long list squad to be named for the upcoming tournament in Qatar.
The question was raised by a listener on the Garibaldi Red podcast with Forest legend and former Engalnd striker Garry Birtles, fan Greg Mitchell and host Matt Davies debating the possibility of a seemingly unlikely international breakthrough. Here is a transcript of the conversation which you can listen to in full here.