David Hytner has filed his match report from the Aviva Stadium, so that’s my cue to say goodnight. Thanks for your company, correspondence and opinions on the unimportance of anthems. It’s been a pleasure, as always. Do head over to the Paralympics live blog or drop by later for John Brewin’s MBM on the women’s singles final at the US Open. In the meantime, here’s Dave.
England won … 9-1 on shots on target, 16-6 on attempts at goal, 5-0 on so-called clear-cut chances, and 713-204 on passes. Oh, and 2-0 on goals.
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The home fans didn’t get the result they wanted, but they made plenty of noise.
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And here’s Lee Carsley, in his tracksuit (burgundy). “I thought it was good in parts,” he says. “You’ve seen some of the things that we’ve tried to do. The lads have got to take a lot of the credit, well all of the credit. We’ve shown that we’ve got some real talent, and really pleased with the clean sheet too… I wouldn’t call it my style or my way of playing [but] running forward, trying to get in pockets, they did really well.”
Asked about the goals coming from two players who (like him) had represented Ireland in the past, he swerves the political element of the question and sticks to the football. “Really well-worked moves, brilliant finishes. I think they could both, moving forward, add more goals to their game.”
Here’s an unexpected email. “Just to solve a family argument,” says Johanna Samuel, “what shade of blue is Kelleher’s kit?”
Not sure you’re asking the expert here, but after rewinding the telly, I’d say it was electric.
Rice is asked about the goals, and whether “the structure, the dynamism” was a Lee Carsley hallmark. Rice pauses for thought. “I think so,” he says tentatively, “but what gets forgotten is that we scored hundreds of goals under Gareth like that.”
This is such a crucial point. When one boss builds on the work of another, it reflects well on them both. It’s not a competition!
Rice and Grealish are now facing the microphone, which has to be easier than facing the crowd. “There’s no bad blood from my side,” says Grealish, in his Brummie accent. “There’s lots of Irish in my family.”
“Ireland supporter here,” says Christina Melia. “OK, we were outclassed and dominated, but there were some good moments from the Greens. Ogbene is a force to be reckoned with, Kelleher is on form and McAteer looks like he could be useful. Also, the England fans didn’t tear up the stadium this time. It wasn’t the humiliation you guys thought it would be. I’m disappointed but hopeful!”
Time for a glance at the inbox. “Would it be fair to say,” asks Tom Hopkins, “that Anthony Gordon has shown both why people were so keen for Southgate to play him in the summer and, maybe, why he didn’t?” Ha, yes. His shooting wasn’t half as good as the rest of his game.
Lee Carsley did a fine job in the first half, when England’s passing was sharper than it was in the last days of Gareth Southgate. Like his team, he was less impressive after half-time, taking too long to send on fresh blood. When he did, in the last 20 minutes, England found their spark again.
The first task was to win, and that England have done, for the first time in Dublin for 60 years. And the first time in the Nations League for four years, since the 4-0 thrashing of Iceland in 2020. They top the group, for now, and face Finland on Tuesday.
FULL TIME! Ireland 0-2 England (Rice, Grealish)
And that is that. England win through two goals by Englishmen with strong Irish connections. It was a game of two halves – the first dominated by England, as Ireland parked the bus, not very well. The second was much more balanced, with Ireland giving almost as good as they got.
90+3 min Chance for England! Bowen shoots on target but without much power. And another! A better one for Saka, who curls his shot towards the far corner, drawing a save from Kelleher. Saka was set free by a beautiful ball from Gibbs-White, stroked with the outside of the right boot.
90+2 min Saka almost takes the hint, playing a smart one-two with Rice. Best move in football, as Roy Keane likes to say, but Ireland get enough bodies back to deal with it.
90 min There will be another five minutes. Time for England to score their first goal for an hour or so.
89 min Ireland get forward on the right. Their player of the match is announced over the PA: it’s Chiedozie Ogbene, who has been sharp in both halves and two roles, as a winger and wing-back.
87 min Chance for England! Alexander-Arnold is still there and now he sends a majestic ball forward to Saka. England play a few passes and the chance falls to Eze, whose shot from distance goes over the bar.
83 min Kane, helping out in defence, makes a neat turn and gets a kick from McAteer for his trouble. That is Kane’s last involvement as Lee Carsley makes some more changes. John Stones comes on for Harry Maguire and takes the armband too. Jarrod Bowen replaces Kane as the centre-forward.
82 min More subs for Ireland as Evan Ferguson, who’s been out injured since March, comes on for Robbie Brady. With Szmodics, Ogbene and Ferguson, the future’s bright, the future’s green.
79 min England reassert their dominance as Gomes, always on the move, finds Gibbs-White, such an intelligent No 10. Kane and Saka are still out there and it’s lovely to see them click with these new boys.
76 min Subs for England, not before time. Angel Gomes comes on for Kobbie Mainoo, one Man United Wunderkind replacing another. Morgan Gibbs-White gets a debut too, in place of Grealish, who exits, pursued by a boo. And Eberechi Eze takes over from Anthony Gordon on the left.
74 min While England are running out of steam, or ideas, Ireland are looking more purposeful. Hallgrímsson sends on two more subs. One of them is Kasey McAteer of Leicester, who has made the opposite journey to Rice and Grealish across the Irish Sea.
72 min Carsley is leaving his subs late. Time for Angel Gomes or Eberechi Eze, surely.
70 min Rice was hurt as he won that ball, but he’s up and running again now. And England counter sends Gordon away, only for Jason Knight to get back and tidy up.
68 min Chance for England! Rice wins the ball near the D, allowing Saka and Grealish to gang up again on the Irish defence. The chance falls to Gordon, who, not for the first time, does better with his movement that his shot.
65 min A glimmer for Ireland as a long free kick comes in from the right, but a foul hands the initiative back to England. Marc Guehi does well to find Grealish, whose pass to Saka draws another foul and a yellow card for Robbie Brady.
65 min Another Irish name goes into the book as Grealish is fouled by Molumby.
62 min Another chance for Ireland! Again it’s Ogbene leading the way. He does well to keep a long ball from Kelleher in and then carves another opening with his hustle and bustle. Szmodics plays a nice lay-off to Smallbone (iI think), whose shot sails over the bar. But Hallgrímsson’s reshuffle has hmade a difference.
60 min As the hourglass flips over, a good point comes in from Mike Daniels. “Personally,” he says, “I wouldn’t play national anthems at sporting events. Just concentrate on the sport, not nationalism.”
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59 min Chance for Ireland! Ogbene, now at wing-back, plays a cute cutback to Szmodics, whose powerful shot goes just wide.
57 min Coleman limps off to warm applause from the massed ranks of green shirts. Another Evertonian, Jake O’Brien, comes on to replace him. Matt Doherty goes off too, giving way to Jason Knight of Bristol City. So both the elderly full-backs have bowed out.
55 min While Coleman gets some attention from the physio, Hallgrímsson gathers the rest of his team for a huddle. “Right guys. Slight change of plan.”
52 min Saka, jinking down the right, wins yet another corner for England. Ireland clear it and then win a free kick as Seamus Coleman goes down, apparently scraped on the Achilles by Maguire. Ouch.
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51 min A free kick from TAA homes on the magnificent head of Harry Maguire, but his header across goal doesn’t find a taker.
“I assume,” says Niall Mullen, “the reason that Declan Rice ended up playing for England is that the powers that be found out that he wasn’t really Irish. Speaking like an East End barrow boy and belting out God Save the King, he couldn’t be any less Irish (including being actually good at football).” Oof.
49 min Ireland are running hard, as they did at the start of the first half, but their attacks keep petering out because they haven’t got enough bodies forward. Their game plan has been neither one thing nor the other.
46 min More boos as Rice, on the right, finds Grealish in the centre circle. He passes the parcel to Gordon, who barges into the box and wins a corner. Nothing comes of it again – that’s one facet of England’s game that Carsley has yet to improve.
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45 min England’s travelling fans decide to sing God Save The King. The home supporters respond with a boo.
“I’m sure I am not the only England fan,” says Rick Harris, “who was baffled at Southgate’s Euro 2024 refusal to give Anthony Gordon a chance on the left wing. With Foden always cutting inside, we had no left flank threat and were really easy to play against. Gordon has been England’s best player and just shows how blinkered Southgate was.” Halfway through the tournament, I was really hoping Southgate would leave out Foden, who was running down cul-de-sacs. But you can see why he didn’t.
He’s playing a bit better than he did last weekend.
Declan Rice’s first half vs. Ireland by numbers:
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100% pass accuracy
75% duels won
4 passes into the final third
3 ball recoveries
2 chances created
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HALF-TIME! Ireland 0-2 England
England lead through goals from Rice and Grealish, both thriving on the boos from the Dublin crowd. And Lee Carsley has put a stamp on the team already: they’re more attacking, as advertised, and quicker and slicker with their passing.
Heimur Hallgrímsson’s Ireland, by contrast, haven’t got going, though they have got forward. Carsley said he expected England to be dominant and so far they have been, with 80pc possession and five of the six shots on target. Time for a hot beverage.
45 min Just a minute of added time as England play patience at the back.
44 min Ogbene charges down the left, too fast for Mainoo who’s covering for TAA, but the cross is overhit. Szmodics goes in hard on Gordon and gets a yellow card, the first of the game I think.
42 min Ogbene continues to be Ireland’s brightest spark, bustling in from the right wing. But England are finding it easy to clear the ball and a moment later Kane wins a corner for them.
“So,” says Liam Rooney, “England are beating Ireland with goals from two Irish lads playing for an Irish manager. It’s just a blatant copy of what we did in the 80s.” Well, the 80s are all the rage these days.
39 min Save! As Saka curls in a cross, Kelleher does well to beat Kane to the punch.
37 min England have another spell of possession and Rice, making a run from deep to latch onto Alexander-Arnold’s long ball, wins a corner. Nothing comes of it, but England stay in control. This is only the second time they’ve gone two up this year, the other being the 3-0 win over Bosnia and Herzegovina in June.
33 min Chance for Gordon! Another flowing move from England, orchestrated by Grealish, but again Gordon’s shot is at the keeper. If his shooting was as hot as his pressing, he’d be a superstar.
32 min Better from Ireland, who get forward through the speedy Ogbene, who puts a good cross in. If Ireland manage to score, the goal may well be made in Ipswich.
31 min Heimur? He has a problem. Ireland are parking the bus, playing 5-4-1 when they don’t have the ball, and England are still driving past them.
30 min Grealish was catching the eye with his energy and creativity even before the goal. But he could be Player of the Match here and it might not do him much good. As a No 10, he would still be stuck behind Jude Bellingham and Phil Foden in the queue. (Not to mention Cole Palmer.) And as a No 11, he would still be behind Gordon.
26 min It was a gorgeous team goal – all first-time passes, Rice to Mainoo to Rice to Saka to Rice to Grealish, who finished crisply from 15 yards, And did celebrate. The snakes are indeed back.
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GOAL! Ireland 0-2 England (Grealish 26)
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22 min Mainoo adds a lovely turn to his England highlights reel. Then Ireland manage to get forward but can’t do more than that as Kane goes deep to defend and picks up a foul.
20 min The game calms down a bit as England knock the ball around. Mainoo plays a lovely diagonal ball to Rice. Nothing comes of it, but Michael Carrick would have been proud of it.
“Perhaps,” says David Wall, “Carsley should have said that he still finds it odd whenever he hears the anthem in honour of ‘the King’ so would be staying silent out of respect for the late Queen. Not only would it have saved all the fuss (and boredom) of that ‘debate’ but it would have got certain newspapers insisting he gets the job full-time, regardless of results. Rookie error.”
17 min Lee Carsley said he’d picked “an attacking team, very attacking” and so far they have lived up to that. Early days, of course – early minutes, in fact.
15 min This game is end-to-end. England storm forward again with Rice leading the charge. Kane gets another shot in, saved this time by Kelleher.
13 min Ireland had just had a chance themselves, with the talented Szmodics drawing a save from Pickford. But then Alexander-Arnold went long and found Gordon, beautifully. He was one on one with the keeper and messed up the shot but the ball came loose. Kane had a go too, blocked, and then Rice was there, near the penalty spot, to thump the ball into the top of the net.
GOAL! Ireland 0-1 England (Rice 11)
Declan Rice with a resounding strike! And he calmly refuses to celebrate.
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9 min Alexander-Arnold and Grealish are beginning to run the show between them, one with vision, the other with quick flicks.
7 min Chance for England! Gordon puts a cross in, just too high, but it’s picked up on the right by Alexander-Arnold, whose cross is inch-perfect. Kane is there to get the header in but can’t keep it down. This, by the way, is his 99th game for England.
5 min Grealish isn’t on the left, he’s the No 10, with the speedier Gordon on the left wing… where Gordon is now, shoving Coleman over.
3 min Chance for Ireland! Molumby, ghosting in to meet a flick-on from the corner, has a free header at the far post, but he can only send it over the bar.
3 min Ireland come forward from the free kick and Ogbene, on the right wing, wins a corner with his energy.
2 min The early signs are that Ireland are playing five at the back and England are looking to play three, with Trent Alexander-Arnold slipping into midfield. He does that now and pings a long diagonal to Anthony Gordon, who is offside.
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1 min Kobbie Mainoo gets the ball rolling and England go back to Jordan Pickford as Ireland press hard.
Now for the anthems. God Save the King rings out. The players sing it, Rice included; Carsley doesn’t – clearly a man of his word.
The Lansdowne Road crowd boo it heartily, then sing their own anthem, strikingly well. Heimur Hallgrímsson doesn’t join in either. It’s up to the individual.
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“This Irish team need but one thing,” says Stephen G. “Shane Long to take over so we can go back to playing route one football, and qualifying for tournaments again. LONGBALL!!!”
The Irish president (and poet), Michael D Higgins, is in the house. Walking iwith two sticks, he is introduced to the England players. He gives Grealish and Rice a warmer welcome than those banner-wielders.
There’s a banner in the crowd aimed at Declan Rice and Jack Grealish, “THE SNAKES,” it says, “ARE BACK.” Oof.
A very attacking team, Carsley says
Lee Carsley has a word with ITV. “The expectancy is high,” he says, while hastening to add that he’s only had three days’ training with the players. “We’ve picked an attacking team, very attacking team.”
Then ITV shows what happened when Carsley took his seat in the dugout. He went to the Irish one.
Some more balls. “In the spirit of Private Eye,” says Andy Flintoff, “maybe we should try to persuade Chris Coleman to take permanent charge, then the style of play would be ‘Colemanball’, and the world would fold in on itself.” Nice one.
And here comes another tart email. “With Jordan Pickford and Anthony Gordon in the XI and John Stones sitting next to Lee Carsley on the bench,” asks Gary Naylor, “do Everton have the most club connections to this Brave New England? If so, there’s a desperate 92 minutes on its way to you right now, culminating in two late goals in the 93rd and 95th to lose the game.” Haha.
“It will be followed by an interview with a bald manager saying that he’s disappointed with the result, nevertheless going on to explain how they were in the game for long periods, but have to cut out the individual errors. He’ll finish by saying that they’re missing a couple of key players but that the squad is good enough to cope with that. [Spoiler - it isn’t].”
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In case you didn’t click on this at the top of the page … Barney Ronay has been pondering Lee Carsley, as only he can.
The next email contains a drop of vinegar. “In an effort to stop the birth of the appallingly asinine yet inevitable term Carsleyball,” says Paul Griffin, “I am frantically lobbying the FA for Kevin Ball to get the gig, just so pundits can’t refer to his style of play as Ballball.
“Or, perhaps an even better choice to stop these dumb, tired portmanteaux cliches gaining further currency would be to hire long-retired Bournemouth defender Chris Foote. The campaign - or perhaps campaignball - starts here. Or hereball.”
Ha. The players who know Carsley from the U21s call him Cars, so I was on the point of floating Carsball.
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“Balance” is the header on the first email. “Looking at England’s three attacking midfielders,” says Mark Beadle, “wouldn’t Saka - Eze - Grealish/Gordon make more sense? Looks a bit unbalanced to me.” Yes, perhaps.
The predicted line-ups I saw this morning got the XI spot-on, so there must have been a clear steer. But they didn’t all agree on where Grealish and Gordon would go. My 4-2-3-1 is just an uneducated guess. It could be a 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-3 with Rice as the sole pivot, Mainoo and Grealish ahead of him, and Saka-Kane-Gordon as the front three. That way, Grealish and Gordon would both get to play on the left. But Eze is such a classy player that it would be surprise not to see him come off the bench.
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Heimir Hallgrímsson is going up in the world. He’s gone from managing Iceland (currently no. 71 in the Fifa men’s rankings) to Jamaica (59) to Ireland (58). England, by the way, are no.4.
Just in case you don’t know much about Hallgrímsson, here’s Barry to mark your card.
Those teams in full
England (possible 4-2-3-1) Jordan Pickford; Trent Alexander-Arnold, Harry Maguire, Marc Guehi, Levi Colwill; Kobbie Mainoo, Declan Rice; Bukayo Saka, Jack Grealish, Anthony Gordon; Harry Kane.
Subs: Nick Pope, Dean Henderson, Tino Livramento, Rico Lewis, John Stones, Ezri Konsa, Conor Gallagher, Angel Gomes, Eberechi Eze, Morgan Gibbs-White, Jarrod Bowen.
Ireland (possible 4-4-1-1) Caoimhin Kelleher; Seamus Coleman, Dara O’Shea, Nathan Collins, Matt Doherty; Chiedozie Ogbene, Will Smallbone, Jayson Molumby, Robbie Brady; Sammie Szmodics; Adam Idah.
Subs: Mark Travers, Max O’Leary, Callum O’Dowda, Andrew Omobamidele, Alan Browne, Jake O’Brien, Jason Knight, Liam Scales, Kasey McAteer, Callum Robinson, Troy Parrott, Evan Ferguson.
'Not a fresh start'
Lee Carsley said he didn’t see this as a fresh start, but as a chance to build on England’s progress under Gareth Southgate. And the first XI he has picked fits in with that.
He has left all the brand-new faces on the bench and handed recalls to Harry Maguire and Jack Grealish. He has kept faith with the spine of Southgate’s team – Pickford, Guehi, Rice, Mainoo, Kane – and might have included more of them if they’d been available (in the case of Jude Bellingham) or match-fit (John Stones).
But he has also brought Trent Alexander-Arnold back from the bench and promoted Anthony Gordon and Levi Colwill, both of whom he knows well from the Under-21s. So, a balanced line-up.
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England team: Colwill, Grealish and Gordon start
England (possible 4-2-3-1) Jordan Pickford; Trent Alexander-Arnold, Harry Maguire, Marc Guehi, Levi Colwill; Kobbie Mainoo, Declan Rice; Bukayo Saka, Jack Grealish, Anthony Gordon; Harry Kane.
Subs: Nick Pope, Dean Henderson, Tino Livramento, Rico Lewis, John Stones, Ezri Konsa, Conor Gallagher, Angel Gomes, Eberechi Eze, Noni Madueke, Jarrod Bowen, Morgan Gibbs-White.
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Ireland team: Coleman and Doherty start
Heimir Hallgrímsson names his first XI and decides he could do with the experience of Seamus Coleman and Matt Doherty.
STARTING XI | Ireland v England
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Preamble: under new management
Afternoon everyone and welcome to the post-Southgate era. It was eight years ago this week that the England men’s team last went into a match without a sensitive Gareth pep-talk ringing softly in their ears. On that occasion – Slovakia 0-1 England (Lallana 90+5) – the manager was Sam Allardyce, running the show for the first and last time. This evening in Dublin it’s Lee Carsley, a far less familiar figure and a far more enlightened coach.
Like Southgate, Carsley has been installed as a caretaker while also being a candidate for the job proper. Like Southgate, he has come up through the ranks and has managed England Under-21s. Like Southgate, in fact even more so, he has brought success at the big tournaments. Unlike Southgate, whose strengths lay in changing the culture and persuading the players to enjoy representing England, Carsley is known for constructing teams that are innovative, creative and attacking. And he still managed to win the U21 Euros without conceding a goal.
It will be fascinating to see if he can get a different tune out of a highly talented squad. He has to do without Phil Foden, Jude Bellingham and Cole Palmer – three club superstars who sometimes tread on each other’s toes in internationals – but can still call upon Harry Kane, Bukayo Saka, Declan Rice, Kobbie Mainoo, Trent Alexander-Arnold, John Stones and Marc Guehi. He has added bright young things from his U21 days such as Angel Gomes, Morgan Gibbs-White, Noni Madueke, Tino Livramento and Levi Colwill. And there could well be a central role for Anthony Gordon, since Kane is the only recognised centre-forward in the squad.
Carsley’s first game with the senior team is against Ireland, the nation he played for 40 times as a defensive midfielder after qualifying through his grandmother. He never sang the Irish anthem then, or the British one when he was managing the U21s, and he is all over today’s papers saying that he is not about to change that policy. Like Allardyce, albeit for very different reasons, he is now in the crosshairs of The Daily Telegraph.
Ireland too have a new boss, Heimir Hallgrímsson. He is an Icelandic dentist, deliciously, but also an experienced manager who has run two national teams – Iceland and Jamaica. He was in joint charge of Iceland in 2016 when they pulled off their famous victory over England, which led to Roy Hodgson’s departure, which led to Allardyce’s arrival, which led to Southgate’s appointment. It’s almost as if there’s a play to be written about all this.
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