The future of the Welsh Premiership is under discussion once again and, not for the first time, opinion is deeply divided.
The Welsh Rugby Union executive, including performance director Nigel Walker, want to see it reduced from 12 clubs to 10 from the 2023-24 season. You can read the full details of that radical proposal here.
The official stance of the Premiership clubs, as expressed by their chairman Jonathan Jones, is a desire for it to stay as a 12-team league.