Even at this early stage of the season, there are debates about which teams are title contenders in the Premier League. Arsenal currently lead the way at the top, with Tottenham four points behind them in third, and Chelsea well off the pace - a whole eight points behind the Gunners.
Arsenal have had an extremely impressive start to the new campaign with seven wins from eight games, but some pundits are still reluctant to consider them as title challengers just because of the sheer quality of Manchester City.
"I think they can win this league by 15-20 points," said Gary Neville. "It feels like a ridiculous statement to make when they're not even top of the league at this moment in time - but I think they're that good."