"It's getting to the stage now where you either use them or you're going to lose them", says Gareth Morgan.
Gareth is an owner of The Dead Crafty Beer Company on Dale Street. Set up in 2016, the craft beer bar is part of Liverpool's 'beer quarter', an initiative made up of 10 pubs and bars in that corner of the city centre.
The beer quarter was launched last September to promote those venues around Dale Street and Liverpool's business district. It came after pub numbers in England and Wales had fallen to their lowest numbers on record, dropping below 40,000 in July 2022.