The Premier League table might not show it, but there is a sense around the club that Nottingham Forest have made tangible progress in recent weeks.
Head coach Steve Cooper has spoken about the 4-0 thumping at Leicester City as being a real low. But it could also prove to be something of a turning point.
On the pitch, the Reds stripped everything back after that and went right back to basics. They focused on shoring up defensively and becoming hard to beat, and have steadily added layers on top of that, developing their attacking threat.