Being a Batman fan often feels like being stuck in a never-ending group chat. With two different Batmen set to appear in upcoming DC movies, the debates are endless—white eyes or no? Yellow utility belt? Oval or no oval on the chest? Everyone has opinions, most of them about the suit. But if you ask James Gunn, the mastermind behind the First Chapter of the DCU and beyond, none of that really matters—and honestly, I’m with him.
Gunn recently appeared on the 2 Bears, 1 Cave podcast (uploaded to their YouTube channel), where he was asked about how he’s approaching the world’s greatest detective in the upcoming The Brave and the Bold. The Guardians of the Galaxy filmmaker got real about what does—and doesn’t—matter to him when it comes to bringing the Caped Crusader to life. In his words:
