Piers Morgan faced off with Trisha Goddard on his TalkTV show on Monday night, over Prince Harry’s denial that he claimed the royal family was racist.
In an ITV interview aired on Sunday night, Tom Bradby questioned Harry, 38, over the claims he and wife Meghan were perceived to have made during their Oprah interview in 2021, as they discussed a family member allegedly sharing concerns over their baby’s skin colour.
“You accused members of your family of racism,” Mr Bradby asked. The Duke of Sussex, whose tell-all memoir Spare was released on Tuesday, replied: “No I didn’t, the British press said that.”
Harry said that his wife did not “mention that [the Royal Family] are racist”, adding that he wouldn’t call his relatives racist himself.
Returning to his show Uncensored on Monday, Morgan, 57, clashed with Goddard, 65, over the Duke’s response as she defended his comments.
Goddard said: “I didn’t hear Harry or Meghan use the word racism, I heard you use it, I heard the press use it, I didn’t actually hear them use the word.”
Referring to their argument over the Sussexes’ Oprah interview nearly two years ago, Goddard continued: “When we had that robust exchange of words, I do get fed up with other people, white people, labelling what is and isn’t racist to Black people.
“If they did actually use the word racism, I would be agreeing.”
Morgan branded Goddard’s response “utterly ridiculous” as he snapped back: “I’ll tell you what racism is.”
Goddard replied: “Oh good, let me get comfortable. Piers Morgan is about to lecture a Black woman about racism.”
Morgan persisted: “I’m about to give you an example of racism as a middle-aged white man, who I know is the enemy to you.
“An example of racism would be somebody expressing concern about the skin colour of a baby from a mixed-race marriage and when the interviewer then says if it was darker that would be a problem, yes you may think that, that is an example of somebody expressing racism.”
“To you!” Goddard highlighted.
Morgan piled on: “For you to shamelessly sit there and pretend that wasn’t what they meant is utter bilge.”
Goddard explained: “If there were more Black people in the media, they may have had the opportunity to look into that and explain it a little bit more.
“I didn’t see it as racism and that’s why I got cross as you decided to label it racism.”
