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The Guardian - UK
The Guardian - UK
Entertainment
Tim Jonze

‘I thank God for killing me and bringing me back’: Nicolas Winding Refn on the heart surgery that inspired his new sci-fi horror

Nicolas Winding Refn, in glasses and a dark blazer, adjusts his glasses frame
‘I didn’t make a fuss about it because I’m like a superhero’ … Refn, whose new film is called Her Private Hell. Photograph: Suki Dhanda/the Guardian

Nicolas Winding Refn has his phone out, showing me one of the goriest scenes he’s ever been involved in. Given that the Danish director’s movies have involved hands getting sliced off, eyeballs being gouged out and a son reaching deep inside his mother’s womb, that’s certainly saying something. In this video, the camera is fixed upon a beating heart when suddenly – slash! – it gets sliced open with a knife. We travel into the open chamber, as needles arrive to pierce through the muscle. Unsettling and compelling, could this be a future Palme d’Or winner?

Unlikely. You see, Refn isn’t the director of this footage; he’s actually the guy lying conked out in the operating room while a surgeon attends to him. Requesting that someone films your own heart surgery is a very Nicolas Winding Refn thing to do. “At first they said no,” says the film-maker known for Drive, Bronson and The Neon Demon. “But then they said, ‘As it’s you, we’ll record it.’”

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