Eddie Howe has made his policy on the domestic cup competitions very clear before the draw for the Carabao Cup second round.
Howe took Newcastle's FA Cup third round tie against Cambridge United seriously last January but the Magpies were beaten 1-0 in one of the shocks of the tournament's history on a day when a relegation battle was clearly on the minds of the players. But with the new season under way Howe has steered clear of mistakes made be managers that came before him when it comes to commenting on the cups.
Remember, it was 1955 when Newcastle last lifted a domestic trophy and you'd need to go back to 1999 the last time United reached a major cup final, when they lost the FA Cup to Manchester United at the old Wembley. United's old board made the error of underlining the fact they would use the cups to experiment and give young players a chance back in 2010.