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Andy Chalk

Hideo Kojima says the Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 development team is his 'ideal' size: 'They only have like 33 team members and a dog'

Hideo Kojima at Featured Session Hideo Kojima Presents "DEATH STRANDING 2: ON THE BEACH" at Austin Convention Center on March 09, 2025 in Austin, Texas. (Photo by Amy E. Price/SXSW Conference & Festivals via Getty Images).

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 has an awful lot of fans, and Hideo Kojima is one of them. But the Death Stranding mastermind admires developer Sandfall Interactive not just for the game it made, but also for the way it was made: With a very small core team.

Speaking at an interview in Australia attended by Dexerto (via GamesRadar), Kojima said his own studio, Kojima Productions, has grown over the years. "It was like a team of six" when he first started out, he said, so "you could do everything yourself." Delegation became necessary as the studio expanded, "but sometimes, the idea doesn't really work out because it's a bigger team."

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