John Parry - or John Parry Moch as he was better known - didn't have electricity on the farm where he'd lived his whole married life with his wife and children.
The very idea was anathema to him.
"So you don't have any electricity in the house?" he was asked 27 years ago, as he walked through the front door of his postcard-perfect stone farmhouse into the little yard outside.
"Wel yr Arglwydd, nag oes!" he replied emphatically. "Good Lord, no!"
"What have you got against this old electricity on the whole then?" his interviewer asks.
"Well," he explains, leaning on the waist-high stone wall just in front of his home.
"I went to some farm, a long time ago, and electricity had killed all the cows."
"Yes, yes, it can happen," says the interviewer.
"And people of a certain age have electric blankets," Mr Parry goes on. "And they've been burned to death. It's a hell of a danger."
But thousands of people manage to live quite safely with electricity, the interviewer points out.
"Well, that's nothing," says John Parry Moch.
"If you're going to use something that's going to kill you before your time... well, that's a devil of a thing, isn't it?"
There wasn't running water in the house either. Or gas. Or an inside toilet. He did have a television, though. It was black and white and ran on batteries, and the picture quality was "champion".
Watch what happens when John Parry Moch and Dai Jones Llanilar try to climb over a fence:
You won't find much online about John Parry Moch, who's not to be confused with John Parry Ddall, the blind harpist from Nefyn who became famous throughout Britain for his musicianship. In fact, a Google search for his name returns just five results.
But what Google doesn't know is that John Parry Moch is a legend in certain Welsh circles, a man who embodied a way of life which had long since disappeared.
In fact, in the seven years before this interview took place in August 1990 (it was aired a few months later on S4C's Cefn Gwlad on February 8, 1991), he had not left his farm, Bryn Golau, once. One of his four sons brought the pension round, and a food van called once a week, so there wasn't much of a reason to. He did have to go to hospital once, though, after eating too many mints.
He hadn't been on holiday for 50 years, but remembered the price of the suit he bought for that trip, to Jersey in 1937, like it was yesterday. It was 50 shillings. He'd gone with his wife, Jane, who he'd known since school.
"How did you meet her?" an interviewer on another programme, Hel Straeon on S4C, had once asked.
"Who?" he replied.
"Your wife."
"Wel, Iesu, mynd i'r ysgol efo hi!" he replied, exasperatedly explaining he went to school with her. "I didn't meet her at all!"
On their farm - at Gwalchmai in the heart of Anglesey - he looked after about 150 pigs (hence the name "moch") despite being 83 years old at the time of the interview. The sound of "Piiiiig pig pig pig pig!" would ring out across the fields, stone walls and narrow lanes of central Anglesey.
He also raised geese and hens. He marked the days on which their eggs were due on a calendar, featuring pictures of himself when he was in Cwmni Drama Capel Jerusalem in 1926.
He kept cows too, though he struggled to recall the breed. He suggests "semolina" and "Mussolini" then grumbles "Beth uffarn yw'r enw na?" before his interviewer, Cefn Gwlad presenter Dai Jones Llanilar, catches on and suggests through laughter: "Limousin?"
He was half Irish, which his wife said made him "gwyllt fel matsien" - wild like a match.
"Do you miss water or electricity?" he was asked on Hel Straeon.
"Miss what?" he said. "You don't miss things you've never used, do you? Eh?"
"Well, it would be right handy, wouldn't it?" the interviewer pressed on.
"No it wouldn't," he said. "No. For what? Arglwydd, and it costs! Look at the price of it now - and it's going up again, they say."
"What about water?" the interviewer tried. "Wouldn't it be handy to have a sink in the house?"
"No it wouldn't," replied Mr Parry. "If everything's too handy you don't get any exercise having to go and get it. Arglwydd mawr."
These long forgotten episodes resurfaced recently thanks to a clip of the Cefn Gwlad episode being shared on Facebook with the simple caption: "Fence 1, Dai Jones Llanilar 0".
In the clip, Dai and Mr Parry go to feed the pigs and they have to climb across an old wire fence. Dai points out a section of fence that would be easier for Johnny Moch to get over, but Johnny's having none of it and slowly swings his leg over a higher section of fence. The older farmer, who has several years (at least) on Dai, gets over, tentatively but successfully.
But Dai is not so lucky, and ends up on his back on the grass. Lugging a sack of pig feed, John Parry Moch glances back and says with dismay: "Wel yr Arglwydd annwyl."
Interviews with Welsh farmers make brilliant viewing, like this one with two farming brothers.
Cefn Gwlad has been running on S4C for 35 years, and is still presented by Dai Jones, a farmer himself whose first book sold 10,000 copies.
Later in the episode, Johnny Moch reflects on his life (both he and Mrs Parry have since passed away).
"I will never retire," he says, theorising that he knows of people who had retired at 50 and managed to build a bungalow ("Wedi cael pres ar ol rhywun", he says) but had died within five or 10 years.
But the last word goes to Mrs Parry, who, when asked if John Parry Moch was easy to live with, replies: "Bobol annwyl, 'sa chi syniad."
Cefn Gwlad is on S4C at 8pm on Tuesdays.
