On this week’s episode of Fortune‘s Leadership Next podcast, co-hosts Alan Murray and Michal Lev-Ram chat with Diane Hoskins and Andy Cohen, co-CEOs of global design and architecture firm Gensler. They talk about the return-to-work trends revealed in Gensler's workplace surveys and how the built design of office spaces should change to accommodate these trends. They explore the opportunities and challenges of converting empty offices, as well as the overall state of commercial real estate.
From there, Hoskins and Cohen discuss the future of sustainable building and design, and they share more about the process of co-writing their upcoming book, Design for a Radically Changing World—and how they've been able to successfully navigate being co-CEOs for 18 years.
