Dame Deborah James's mum, Heather James, has spoken candidly about life after the loss of her daughter and the biggest struggle she's currently facing in her grief.
The 65-year-old appeared as a guest on a podcast called Open, in conversation with one of Deborah's friends, Emma Campbell.
During the honest 48-minute chat, Heather told how she has thrown herself into work since her daughter's death as she finds it easier to keep her mind "occupied".