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Can Affirm take down the credit card industry? It’s CEO Max Levchin’s 30-year plan

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On this week’s episode of Fortune’s Leadership Next podcast, co-hosts Alan Murray and Ellen McGirt talk with Max Levchin, CEO of Affirm, about his reasons for founding the lending company and the long-term mission to upend the credit card industry.

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