Abbas: Did you see? Karan Johar has put up a high production quality pre-wedding video of Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant. Our pre-wedding videos are by some random ‘Chandu video wala’.
Nainika: No, Abbas. You’re Bombay royalty. You should have one of your director friends come in and shoot your wedding with a film camera.
Abbas: I think I’d get Suraj Barjatya, or maybe Quentin Tarantino. The joota-churai ceremony would be epic.
Nainika: Oh my god, you did not just say that. (laughs)
This and a whole lot of awful and awesome as Abbas Momin and Nainika Singh Rathore discuss the movies The Holdovers and Laapataa Ladies, the series Mr and Mrs Smith, and the hullabaloo around Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant’s pre-wedding festivities.
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00:00 - Introductions
02:18 - Headlines
04:02 - Ambani bash
21:06 - NL-TNM Election Fund announcement
22:08 - Mr & Mrs Smith
28:59 - Subscriber letter
30:05 - Laapataa Ladies
37:56 - Subscriber letter
40:05 - The Holdovers
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Sting: [00:00:00] This is a News Laundry Podcast, and you're listening to The Awful and Awesome Entertainment Rap.
Abbas Momin: Hello, hello, and welcome to The Awful and Awesome Entertainment Rap, episode 343. I'm Abbas.
Nainika Rathore: And I'm Nainika.
Abbas Momin: And when the guards are away, the inmates will play.
Nainika Rathore: I will apologize though. I'm really under the weather today. I was coughing my lungs out before this. So I do sound a little weird, but, uh, yeah, but let's get into this.
Abbas Momin: You know what I've been under? I've been under the spell. Oh, yes.
Nainika Rathore: I was literally going to start the episode, you know, a specter has been haunting the nation. The specter of the third Ambani kid wedding. So yeah, uh, Abbas, no, no, let's start with this. Abbas, if you had infinite money and you were. Getting married.
How would you do it?
Abbas Momin: Oh, I was only getting married. Um, I think I would do it [00:01:00] exactly the way I think the Ambani's have done it. I think I wouldn't do, I wouldn't change a thing. Uh, but I would just like to mention at the top of the episode, that's not the only thing we're going to talk about in this episode.
Uh, there are other things also. Yeah, we're a very, we're a serious show.
Nainika Rathore: Serious podcast and we talk about serious things, but we thought, you know, just let us just give our critical inputs on the spectacle that has been unfolding, which is why we're talking about it. Otherwise we always talk about erudite, refined, culturally noteworthy things only.
Isn't that right, Abbas?
Abbas Momin: the exact opposite of the Ambani wedding. But anyway, so, uh, we'll come to the um, but you will come back to the um, body wedding, a couple of other things that we'll be talking about on the episode is, uh, a lot, but the ladies, which is the new Kiran Rao film that is playing in theaters right now, I happened to catch it.
So I'll be talking about that. Uh, we'll also be talking about Mr. And Mrs. Smith, the new action, action, action,
Nainika Rathore: action, uh, drama, comedy, romance, Everything sort of rolled into one.
Abbas Momin: Oh, okay. Uh, which is [00:02:00] on, uh, Amazon prime, a prime video. Uh, we'll also be talking about the holdovers, which is another movie that has a lot of Oscar buzz going on, which Danica was able to watch before we get on with the show.
Here's what happened in the world of entertainment. Dune part two has had the biggest domestic opening weekend of the year so far in North America with a collection of 81. 5 million. The film has grossed 170 million. Eight million dollars worldwide.
Nainika Rathore: Janice Burgess, the creator of Nickelodeon show, The Backyardigans, passed away on 4th March.
She was 72 years old. Controversial
Abbas Momin: political film Article 370 has grossed over 50 crores in the span of 10 days of its theatrical release. Earlier, PM Modi endorsed the film at a rally in Jammu.
Nainika Rathore: Vikas Bihel, the director of 2014 superhit Queen, has confirmed a sequel, stating his team has finalized the story.
Kangana Ranaut is set to reprise her role and Vikas Bihel shall be returning to helm the project. Let's go! Culturally and socially, we've moved too far on ahead to like, [00:03:00] welcome the sequel of Queen. Like, back when it happened, Kangana Ranaut was like, sort of this contrarian voice, and Vikas Bihel was like, an upcoming director from Phantom Film Collective.
Ever since that has happened, Kangana Ranaut has turned into what she has and Vikas Bihel has had one really serious MeToo allegation against him. So I'm not sure what is in store for the next queen or if it will be able to capture the charm of the last time, but fingers crossed, I guess.
Abbas Momin: I think it will be called controversial queen, queen of controversy.
Queen of
Nainika Rathore: controversy, who knows? But it's really crazy where back when queen did come out, you know, the slice of, you know. Pop culture bandwidth that captured was crazy. It was a very good film for the time.
Abbas Momin: Yeah, it
Nainika Rathore: was wonderful at that time.
Abbas Momin: I was like a
Nainika Rathore: weirdly like very beautiful, um, feminist without being preachy, very zany, very cute film.
But I feel like, yeah, we're not getting that one back. Like, let's not even hope or expect anything of that sort.
Abbas Momin: Or they may surprise you. Or
Nainika Rathore: they may, I'm yeah, I'd happily be surprised if that was the case, but let's see. Let's see.
Abbas Momin: All [00:04:00] right, then let's get on with the show. Without further ado, let's get to the big thing that happened, uh, this week, uh, Nainika, which was Anant Ambani and, uh, Radhiki as Rihara called
Nainika Rathore: it.
You know, I was surprised to find out this isn't actually their wedding.
Abbas Momin: They didn't get married. I said they got married. Yeah, it's not actually their wedding. I
Nainika Rathore: was so surprised to find out these are just their pre wedding festivities. And the wedding is supposed to take place sometime in June. I was just like, if they're spending this much.
On pre wedding festivities. I want to, I wonder what's going to happen at the wedding. Like if Rihanna was performing at the pre wedding festivities and who, Beyonce already, you know, performed at Isha Bani's wedding.
Abbas Momin: I think they're going to aim for Taylor Swift.
Nainika Rathore: Yeah, even I'm thinking they're BTS here and all the, you know.
They're probably the biggest act. I have no clue. I don't follow them. If they have disbanded my, my condolences to the followers, [00:05:00] but I guess it's very important for me to ask if you were to get married, which musical act are you calling to your wedding? I know it's Metallica. I'm guessing it's Metallica.
Abbas Momin: See, if it was, I mean, if it was a birthday bash, then it would all be my rules, right? If for a wedding, I also had to take into consideration the bride side of the family. I'm not assuming that they will be huge Metallica fans, but I'll play it safe. I'll probably get Coldplay down here.
Nainika Rathore: Yeah, fair. Anyway, everyone's been going to Coldplay's concerts and they seem like they seem okay coming in, you know, singing a gig here at this party.
part of the world. So I guess sure. And anyway, do you remember in 2015 this one time Chris Martin randomly showed up to this bar in Delhi and it was just summer house cafe and he apparently performed and just left. So I'm like, I guess he's okay with performing in like lowdown venues in India. So, uh, so yeah, maybe
Abbas Momin: that whole video with Holi, playing Holi, Sonam
Nainika Rathore: Kapoor was in it.
It was him for the weekend, I guess.
Abbas Momin: [00:06:00] Who was also at the Ambani pre wedding bash, you know, travelling in a bus
Nainika Rathore: with her father. Yes, what did you think about the fact that they made all the Bombay celebs travel via bus?
Abbas Momin: Oh, I loved it. See, so there are, there are two, um, Schools of thought, right? About this. I don't know if you can call it schools of thought.
One is that Ambani has shown people their worth. They are so rich, they become big, they are made to sit in the bus. One is that. And the other is what is this vulgar display of wealth in a country that is, uh, that is where most of the people live below the poverty line. So we'll come to the second part of it, which is the slightly more, uh, nuanced take on
Nainika Rathore: it.
Abbas Momin: But I loved it. I loved that. Uh, uh, Ananya Pandey was very uncomfortable sitting in a bus, trying to sit in a bus. I don't know how many of these people traveled in a bus last time. And, uh, I loved how, uh, uh, uh, David Devon and his son, Varun Dhawan, uh, I think they were, They were catching people's bags. And I think some Instagram page was, Oh my God, they're so humble.
[00:07:00] They're helping people out. I
Nainika Rathore: think you've really followed the celeb buzz around it. I guess you were one of those. Who's the paparazzi guy? Viral bhai or Viral bhai? I do not know. Is his name actually Viral? Like, is that, that's like some stunning nominative determinism on display. He popped out of his mother's womb and his parents are like, our child will become an internet celeb.
So we must name him accordingly. Well, that's crazy. I feel like you've been following all these paparazzi meme pages.
Abbas Momin: Not all of them. So also a lot of this is not by choice. It's just it was all over social media so much. But I saw this one video where this lady sort of did a breakdown of which celebrities were sent in a bus and which were actually picked up in a car.
And that was very interesting. No, no, very important.
Nainika Rathore: If you remember these two camps, who were you surprised to see was sent by bus and who were you surprised to see that had a car sent for them?
Abbas Momin: So I wasn't surprised by any of the car people because I think they all deserve who was in the cars. So the cars was the three Hans, okay, Ranveer and Deepika, [00:08:00] uh, uh, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Mahendra Singh Dhoni.
All these people. Dhoni was
Nainika Rathore: also at the wedding. That's crazy.
Abbas Momin: Yeah, I'll actually tell you who I was surprised was sent by bus, which was, uh, Kareena Saif and their child traveled by bus. Oh
Nainika Rathore: my god, Kareena and Saif I don't care for, but given the fact that their son is like a paparazzi celebrity, like a paparazzi favorite, it's kind of sad sending him on a bus.
I guess.
Abbas Momin: Yeah. But yeah, they were in a bus and then Ananya Pandey and Aditya Roy Kapoor, who they are seeing each other. Apparently they were in the bus. Navya Naveli Nanda, Amitabh's granddaughter, was on a bus and apparently was seen like when she was told she has to go on a bus. She was seen meddling with her phone.
So the conspiracy theory is she was trying to get out of the bus and get a car for herself. Absolutely.
Nainika Rathore: Um, everyone would do the same.
Abbas Momin: Yeah. So, uh, these were the couple of, uh, celebrities who were, uh, who were sent by bus. No, it's, um, what's
Nainika Rathore: actually crazy to me is that they organize all these festivities in the [00:09:00] middle of nowhere in Jamnagar of all places.
Abbas Momin: You should also mention the Jamnagar airport overnight was turned into a international airport.
Nainika Rathore: Absolutely. Okay. So I, so I was briefly employed by Reliance and I did work at the Jamnagar refinery back when I was 2018. There was no airport because the closest airport I could go to was Jamnagar. I guess Ahmedabad or Rajkot whatever and then I had to take a bus and it's like an arduous journey and the refinery township is in the middle of nowhere like it's probably, I don't know, one hour or so removed from the actual Jamnagar city which by the way is like a tier three city at best.
So it was just so beautiful. It's so insane seeing all these celebs like taking like casual glamour shots on the roads where I was doing my existential post work walks. So um, yeah, it is kind of insane. Like there was some like somebody was going gaga over some pictures that Janhvi Kapoor had taken and I could tell that the road behind it was one of the ones that I would like walk on or whatever on my way to work and I was just like, this cannot be the same [00:10:00] roads where I was walking around in overalls.
You know, cursing the heat or whatever, or by work schedule or whatever, like these cannot be the same roads. But yeah, it's crazy that they had all these festivities in Jamnagar of all places, in the middle of nowhere in Jamnagar of all places, but yeah.
Abbas Momin: Uh, the two, the big international act, of course, was Rihanna, who, I did not know this, so she hasn't performed live in a long time.
I think her last live performance was the
Nainika Rathore: Super Bowl, where she also announced her second pregnancy, essentially, and then she just sort of wasn't seen. So it's crazy. And then later, it turns out that, you know, a, she charged 9 million per for the performance and, uh, B, which is
Abbas Momin: how much in India, Indian rupees, roughly
Nainika Rathore: 80
Abbas Momin: crores.
Oh, wow. Okay.
Nainika Rathore: Yeah. So she performed for about 9 million. And secondly, and more importantly, uh, Fenty Beauty is coming to India. And I think it will be launched on the Sephora, Tira, whatever platform that, you know, like a money zone.
Abbas Momin: Isn't the launch supposed to be on Nika? And that was the big question. Uh,
Nainika Rathore: yeah, I think she's launching it on Nika or something, but essentially she came to [00:11:00] India and it was entirely on business purpose.
Nika
Abbas Momin: and Tira, right? Aren't they competitors? That is true. They're
Nainika Rathore: competitors. Tira has entered the market now. She
Abbas Momin: did both the things. She performed for the Ambani's and now she's launching her thing on a rival platform. Yeah, I think it's on
Nainika Rathore: Nika. But let's see. I mean, essentially she came here for business and that is what she managed to do.
So good for her. But
Abbas Momin: tell me what all videos have you seen? So I've seen a lot of videos of the Diljit Dosanjh performance and the Rihanna performance. Uh, which happened. Uh, I also saw,
Nainika Rathore: the three Natu Natu or something.
Abbas Momin: Natu Natu. Yeah. They didn't even dance on the Telugu version. They danced on the Hindi version, which is Nacho Nacho, which is, which is really weird, but tell me something.
So of course, everybody's been saying this. Uh, that, that, oh, they sold their, their, their sellouts. They went for this, that all of them, these prestigious people, some of them are like Bharat Ratna winners and so on and so forth. And it's kind of beneath their, uh, uh, caliber to see them dancing at a, at a wedding.
Right. But my question is, see, if you get that invited in your mail that [00:12:00] India's richest man has invited you to his son's pre wedding bash, how do you say no to that? Because I'm sure there are repercussions to say no to that, right? Like The stakes are pretty high if you piss them off.
Nainika Rathore: I mean, it's saying no to a wedding invitation like pissing them off.
It's just not showing up to a wedding.
Abbas Momin: If you're the richest person in the world and control pretty much everything, from, from your SIM card to I guess, you
Nainika Rathore: know, um, also it's just like, I think it's a So I visited Bombay for the first time in I don't know how many years and I was surprised
Abbas Momin: not to meet me.
But
Nainika Rathore: I'm so sorry, it was my last minute trip and it was an entirely work thing, but I was walking around and I was just like, Bombay just has the vibe of a small town because everything is just so enmeshed and close together. So I feel like there's no way you can escape the person whose invitation you're saying no to.
There's hardly any space. So you're going to run into them eventually. Okay. Fair enough. So maybe that's the reason, but I don't know. I mean, um. I guess. I don't know if there are repercussions in terms of like, I'm sure [00:13:00] Reliance produces a bunch of their movies and they own all these entertainment platforms and whatnot,
Abbas Momin: like, so the actors I get, like, I'm sure Shahrukh Khan is used to dancing at weddings and, you know, and I think he makes
Nainika Rathore: good money off of it as well.
Abbas Momin: Exactly. Great money. But someone like a Sachin Tendulkar or I think some of I also spotted a few like classical musicians and so on and so forth. So someone like that, you know, who's who's dedicated more to the nation. And, uh, and now they are like, just another guest at at the Ambani wedding, do you think like, basically, Does it give the idea that, hey, if, if you have enough money, you can, you can control anyone.
Nainika Rathore: Um, I feel like it definitely gave off, like the buzz essentially was that, you know, you're getting all these actors, you're getting them, you're making them ride in buses, coming and making them perform. So it's definitely that, you know, there'll be, there's a little bit of like, uh, gentle social coercion happening here, where in the sense that you do fear that you do fear social exclusion if you don't show up to the wedding.
So that is by default there, but I guess that's [00:14:00] just the kind of access and power money buys you. Um, and Ambani's are clearly enjoying their day in the sun. So all of that is happening. So I guess, you know, not surprised by that. I don't think that there's any larger conspiracy at play. They also extended the invites to, I guess, your Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg.
And I feel like on their case, I guess they just realize it's a decent move to come and shake hands with like India's biggest businessman, as opposed to, I don't think there was any coercion involved there. They just realize India is an upcoming market, so might as well show up, shake hands with the big boss and sort of solidify their position where they can and take a, take a tour of the facilities, I guess.
So I guess there's no coercion involved, but it's definitely like you can see the kind of access and power the Ambani's have. Like this is a very naked and easy display of what
Abbas Momin: they
trailer: are
Nainika Rathore: in position of right now. Yeah,
Abbas Momin: fair enough. I think, uh, yeah, that actually what I was coming to that, do you think it was tone deaf to sort of, uh, do and do a celebration like this, uh, given that, okay, you're [00:15:00] the richest person in the country, but then, but then I think, I mean, that comes down to even the fact that.
Even the Antilla house in Bombay, you won't find like, I mean, you will find a slum pretty much down the road from where the Antilla stands. So I guess the dichotomy, you can't escape in India. I personally am not a fan of people who have this, uh, innate sense of showing off their wealth. So I don't know, but I can't deny that.
I love the memes also that were coming out.
Nainika Rathore: So I
Abbas Momin: guess
Nainika Rathore: there's always been this thing like, uh, you know, even when, okay, wow, I feel we are saying this, but even when, when France was on the brink of the revolution, the French revolution and about, you know, the income inequality, the wealth inequality is just wealth has a wealth or celebrations or displays of wealth have always worked to sort of.
Keep people in line, essentially, right? So just give them something to distract them, give them something to sort of keep their eyes glued and this and that. Essentially, [00:16:00] do you remember the Aaron Bushnell self immolation thing happened where he
trailer: yes,
Nainika Rathore: self immolated in front of the Israeli embassy in Washington DC?
Because he was opposing what is happening, um, in, in the Israel Palestine conflict. And somebody tweeted out saying that, you know, between, uh, Sidney Sweeney's SNL performance and Dune 2, everyone's just forgotten about that man, Aaron Bushnell. And I was just, it just made me realize that all spectacle, all public spectacle serves as a vehicle to sort of distract people or to sort of nudge people's attention to sort of more frivolous matters.
And uh, Which I also just like, you know, sort of solidify these rich people as a cultural behemoth in people's mind, like, oh, this is what you should be aspiring to, or you should try to recreate this in some sort of like, you know, some smaller platform in your life when you're celebrating something because that's all you can aspire to.
You'll never have our kind of wealth, which is why Neeta Ambani was wearing that 500 crore necklace with a giant, giant emerald or whatever. So it's just like, you know, they're, they're like, they work like subtle, [00:17:00] subtle, subtle. Mind control onto you to reinforce what should be done, what norms should be followed, what to, how to fall in line.
So yeah, I guess that's, that's the purpose it serves. Um, is it, is it worth commenting? No.
Abbas Momin: Uh, the funniest people I saw was somebody took a picture of the day before the pre-reading Bash and the lights were on and they were like, uh, that was quite funny.
Nainika Rathore: A mutual of mine co tweeted that saying Parasite.
Abbas Momin: Then, uh, of course, the one that's been doing around a lot was, uh, I think it's a clip from Suryavansham where, uh, Amitabh Bachchan is really rich and then he becomes poor and comes back to, uh, the house of his father and like insecure, insecure introduce Karan yet. And people are comparing that to, uh, uh, Mukesh's brother, I forgot his name.
An labban. Yeah. Yeah. Who was also there, by the way. I was, who was also was invited, was also, I
Nainika Rathore: think I didn't watch this clip. I solely imbibed all of this from the chatter around it where essentially, uh, [00:18:00] Anban met Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates and he was showing off how his watch, which is a Richard Mill mil, I don't know, how do you pronounce it?
Whatever. I only read it in advertisements, was talking about how his Richard Mill watch is about a million dollars. And those people are just a little flabbergasted as to why he's showing off that his watch is like a million dollars. Uh, which is somebody also commented about it saying, you know, that you should never show off to rich people because if you're buying things solely for looking, uh, like you're rich, then you're never going to impress rich people because they don't care about that sort of thing.
And someone's like, oh, yeah, they're going to squander all their wealth in a few generations if they keep buying these ugly Richard Mills. It's not even a Rolex. So,
Abbas Momin: um, no, just, just two last things. So please watch the interview that Rahul Kanwal did with Anandam Bani. It's one of the most surreal things I've ever done, where the khichdi that is prepared for the elephants, uh, is being tasted by Rahul Kanwal.
It is hilarious. And the last thing is, I think that I felt like the, the reason why we So obsessed with this is that when people like us, like when, I [00:19:00] mean like whatever, uh, urban living, English speaking people, when we do our, uh, barat and our , you know, Ika Hall, Shadi, you'll always find that as people on the street also looking at our barat and our I thinking functions and be like under kaho.
Right? Right. I think up for, for the Amani wedding, we are that we are the people outside the gate trying to appear in candor Kaho, I, I'll
Nainika Rathore: be very honest, I find the entire. Um, male, like, the hulabaloo around weddings is really embarrassing, like, if that were me getting married, I would not be able to handle it.
So, you know, uh, sorry to my, I don't know, sorry to my mom, but I feel like the best way to get married is bhakke, like, elopement is the way to go. I would not be inviting Rihanna to my wedding, even if I had money to invite her to my wedding.
Abbas Momin: Oh, man. What a waste of wealth you will be, Nainika. But anyway.
Nainika Rathore: Let me come into a few billion dollars, then we'll decide.
Abbas Momin: Yeah, then you probably won't be on this podcast, but let's not go there. No, I would
Nainika Rathore: still do it if I made a few billion [00:20:00] dollars. I can assure you that much.
Abbas Momin: Okay, okay, Nainika. We'll see about that. Uh, but yeah, that's our, uh, that's our take on the Ambani wedding, the grand Ambani wedding.
Nainika Rathore: Yes. Do write to us about, uh, what you thought were the most hilarious moments. And if you have any cutting incisive or social commentary surrounding the wedding, please let us know about that as well. Also, I feel like this whole wedding thing is a little diverse, right? Like only weddings in North India, like this time consuming and laborious, like, I don't think weddings in the South are like a day affair.
Abbas Momin: I used to have that misconception. So, of course, there are differences like the South Indian weddings aren't maybe as opulent and show offy. Uh, but they are also quite, uh, quite like, uh, wealth driven. No, that is for sure. I
Nainika Rathore: mean, marriage historically has been a transference of wealth and power, essentially, between families.
I
Abbas Momin: learned this when I went to some Malayali weddings in Bangalore and, uh, A couple of Tamilian weddings. They just get married at 6 in the morning. That is cool. [00:21:00] Yeah,
Nainika Rathore: it's cool to get it done with. Then you have the rest of the day to chill.
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Uh, so that's about the election fund. So let's move on to Mr. and Mrs. Smith, which is the new Amazon Prime original, uh, which comes with a lot of hype. Uh, this is a spy series created by Francesca Sloane and Donald Glover. It's loosely inspired by the Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie spy thriller of the same name.
So Nainika, you saw this, tell me what you thought about it. And, uh, What's it? What's, what's your opinion?
Nainika Rathore: So this came out a couple of weeks ago and I've been dying to talk about it ever since. I think Priyali and I had a conversation that I want to come and record and talk about this. So it's, uh, it was conceptualized by Donald Glover.
Essentially, it was supposed to have Donald Glover and Phoebe Waller Bridge. Oh, okay. Oh, the Fleabag. She was supposed, she was co writing it and she was supposed to act opposite Donald Glover, but now it's Maya Erskine. I don't know what else she's been in, but she was quite good in this. And essentially it's a little like a little different [00:23:00] from the original Mr.
And Mrs. Smith, where they were sort of pitted, um, from rival agencies. There were spies for rival agencies that were also married, but it was like, But they were married and that was a separate plot point that became, you know, the, the point of contention for their respective agencies. This one here is a little flipped on its head that these two are spies.
They sign up to work for the same agency and then the agency sort of pairs them up as a husband wife couple and essentially tells them that you will be husband and wife like this. play pretender's husband and wife for your missions because you attract less attention as a couple. People are more charitable to you if you're a couple together instead of just, you know, people raise questions about one single person.
If it's just like a married couple, people don't, you know, they're not as suspicious about it. So they essentially get paired up, they get this beautiful house in New York and they have like this AI system, this computer system that keeps telling them about the projects that they're supposed to take on.
And it's, I think, uh, eight episode series or so. And, uh, the chemist, I mean, they're just the story of everything, how it's developed. It's very slick looking. It's very beautifully done. But just the [00:24:00] chemistry in both the leads is quite beautiful. It's quite nice to watch. Apart from just being a spy thriller, it also ends up being like a really beautiful exploration of what it means to, uh, what it means to be a couple, what it means to be married, what it means to, so it's, they're sort of in a strange position where they're married, but they're also just like, it's a new relationship for them.
So they're having all these relationship fights.
Abbas Momin: I should watch this. They
Nainika Rathore: maybe should watch this, but I don't, they've been dating since forever, I guess. So, you know, I, I don't know if that applies, but maybe they should. But essentially it's just like they're having all these fights that a couple has like, Oh, you're so terrible.
Oh, you become cold. Oh, you call your mom too much. Oh, I'm not going to share my, I don't know, Apple location with you anymore because I'm mad at you. And they're having all these fights while also on mission where they're like toting guns, killing people on a chase and this and that. Funky weird locations.
So I thought that we've made for a very funny contrast and it's just also a great exploration. I think it's very funny, sharp, incisive writing about relationships, which is quite rare because people do make a [00:25:00] lot of romance movies, but I guess to really understand the machinations of what happens in a couple between two people who are in a relationship together is very difficult to.
capture in writing format. It's like, you know, sometimes it's like you're making a single child write about a sibling relationship. It's very different. If you're not in it, you've not experienced it. So I feel like that way, just the relationship writing aspect of it is very good. And I think it's because it's Donald Glover.
He's always been known for somewhat Uh, I know people like take a lot of, uh, stock with like a lot of fault with him for reasons here and there, but I do think he makes for an interesting writer. I think his characters do make for an interesting, interesting watch on the screen. So I genuinely, definitely, really recommend.
It's also just like both the leads have great chemistry amongst each other. So it's fun to watch and, uh, yeah. And yeah, I mean, who doesn't want to watch like a, I love a spy shit and I love like action on the screen, especially if it is slick and good looking. So it's almost like it
Abbas Momin: was made just for you, Nainika.
Nainika Rathore: I actually do feel [00:26:00] like the show, when I was watching it, I was like, this is so perfect. It literally is made for me.
trailer: They didn't bring up that we'd be paired into the last interview.
Abbas Momin: It's an old KGB tactic. They draw less attention as a couple.
trailer: Very romantic.
What is it that you two do?
We're sophomore engineers. Administer single dose, no casualties. What?
Nainika Rathore: You think if the company hadn't matched you, you'd be compatible? If you like the original Mr. and Mrs. Smith, which I did like, which I did, and the show has been nice about preserving certain motives from it, like that fight they have while they're shooting at each other in their house.
Yeah. That has been preserved. Uh, so. So yeah, so I think like they've been honest to the source material while also making something genuinely fun to watch.
Abbas Momin: Okay, uh, Donald Glover also made, uh, Atlanta, I think, which is a very acclaimed show. [00:27:00] I haven't seen it, but I've heard a lot of good things about it.
The reason I didn't particularly wasn't very excited about this is for this reason is that the Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt film just never worked for me. Oh, what did not
Nainika Rathore: work for you?
Abbas Momin: I don't like I get it that it was very big at the time it came out because they were seeing each other. Angelina and they started seeing
Nainika Rathore: each other during the film.
It was added to Jennifer Aniston and he sort of started cheating on her when they were making the movie together because they just had great chemistry.
Abbas Momin: So I don't know, it just, I just, it just didn't excite me. This idea of two hot people who are married to each other, but then also spies
Nainika Rathore: flip the script a little.
So I think when initially when they announced the casting for like a couple of years ago, they were like, Oh, the Mr. And Mrs. Smith remake is on the way. It stars Donald Glover and Phoebe Waller Bridge. I think one of my. Mutuals on Twitter was just going ham about the fact that these two people are not hot.
Ugly people should not be in a remake of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. [00:28:00] I was like, it's okay. You think ugly people can't be loved or what? But, uh, BB Waller Bridge is not ugly. I guess she's not Angelina Jolie pretty. I guess that is the, that is the only difference there. But yeah, essentially a lot of people were like, Oh, but they're not attractive.
They shouldn't be in a remake. I'm like, that's. Crazy. Uh, you know, ugly people or whoever you think is ugly can also find love. So let's, let's be a little less shallow.
Abbas Momin: Your mutuals have really high standards. I have to say, if they think Donald Glover is ugly.
Nainika Rathore: Yeah, I don't know. So I think he looked, I think both of them looked quite nice on screen in the, in the show.
Abbas Momin: Cool. I'll, I'll check it. I'll check out Mr. and Mrs. Smith, uh, which is on my watch list among all the many, many things. Just
Nainika Rathore: because it's one of those good Amazon Prime shows. I think I was at home the other day with my mom and we're surfing, trying to find something to watch. And I just realized all shows are like really bad these days.
Abbas Momin: That's true. I tried watching Citadel and it was really bad. I'm sure Mr. and Mrs. Smith will be better than that. [00:29:00] Before we move on, I'd like to read a subscriber letter. This comes from Pranay Nikam, uh, and Pranay says, hello, team ANA, hope all are sane given the content you binge.
Nainika Rathore: Thank you, Pranay. A question.
Abbas Momin: So Pranay has a question for me. He says a question to Abbas. When is the ANA and Hazard Age will crossover happening? Well, Pranay, I like we just mentioned Nainika was very much in Bombay, but she refused to, to message me or tell me that she was in town. Had I known, I would have definitely fixed, uh, something, uh, in studio, but that's okay.
Nainika, you were on a short trip. The next time I'm in
Nainika Rathore: Bombay, then I guess.
Abbas Momin: Actually, I, uh, when I started my podcast, uh, I, I, I was on an episode of a NA just before I started the podcast. Uh, we did an episode with AAN and Reh Manon, and when we went off air, I had actually asked AAN if he'd be, uh, interested in, uh, being on the show, and he agreed.
So, uh, right now we are doing in-Studio episodes. Once we start doing, uh, online episodes, I'd love to [00:30:00] have, uh, ab or TI on any of the episodes. So, yeah. So let's move on to a movie next, which is La Pata Ladies, which is a film that I was able to catch in the theaters. It's directed by Kiran Rao, whose last film came out about 13 years ago.
She made Dhobi Ghat. This film, like the previous film, is also produced by Aamir Khan, but it has almost a completely new star cast. I've seen very few people in the film, in other TV shows and movies. So LAPATA LADIES follows the stories of two newlywed brides who get lost on the same train. I saw the trailer and I thought it was, uh, the premise was very funny.
Uh, it's set in, uh, a town in Northern India where, uh, or is it Madhya Pradesh? I'm not sure. Uh, so basically what happens is, uh, uh, this was very much in the trailer also. So I'm not spoiling something. Uh, a newlywed couple is traveling on a train and as happens in most parts of Northern India, that the woman [00:31:00] has covered her head.
Uh, with a goon guard and, uh, in the hurry to get down on a station, the husband takes the wrong and the, and because it's shoddy season, the, it's all just, it's all full of goon guard, uh, goon guard, glad women. So he actually takes this, uh, a woman who's not his wife and happens to go to his own, uh, village and everybody there is shocked and surprised as to what happened.
And importantly, this film is set in 2001 because I think a lot of the, the lost and found aspect of the film would be irrelevant in today's times where you can trace people with, uh, with a phone or, uh, yeah, yes.
Nainika Rathore: But you
trailer: can pick it up on the roof. It's all family business. Who's this? Is Aunty [00:32:00] home? Um, run!
Abbas Momin: So I liked the film. I thought it was refreshing to see again a story which is, uh, which is set in a, in, in the villages of India with a very fresh outlook and with a very fresh cast. Just to give you like, uh, some reference to this.
So I went to see the film in the theaters and the trailers that they played before the, before Lapata Ladies were Yodha. Uh, and one more some action driven film and I, I, I swear to God, I couldn't tell one apart from the other. It was all just massive explosions and people beating each other up.
trailer: Right.
Abbas Momin: So when La Pata Lady started, I was very happy and, uh, a little, uh, satisfied that, okay, something different is happening.
Um, It's a funny movie. It's, uh, it has like a very slice of life feel to it. Since it's directed by Kiran Rao and Kiran Rao has done a lot of, uh, like her, her outlook to the world is very [00:33:00] much a feminist outlook. Um, so what happens is that the, the, the wife, the bride that the protagonist of our story takes by mistake, she's actually an educated woman who wants to study
family in the village is very taken aback. Uh, very interestingly. So since the, uh, since they've exchanged the brides, they have to go to the police station and write a report about it. And the film kind of highlights how, uh, the villages are very scared to go to the police station because, um, they do this through this thing.
And then the roughly translates to going to the Police station is worse than the theft you have faced because you know, you will face more discrimination, uh, in the, in the police Tana. So the police constable is played by, uh, Ravi Kishan, who is very good at this film. Uh, who's having a bit of a resurgence because he was also in a Netflix's show called Mamla [00:34:00] Legal Hai.
Nainika Rathore: Uh,
Abbas Momin: he's very good at that. You also
Nainika Rathore: liked, you said.
Abbas Momin: That I also liked. Yes. Uh, so that show is about lawyers and it's a new story every episode, but La Pata Ladies, it comes with a lot of acclaim. It was screened, I think, in at Sundance or one of these other, uh, foreign film festivals. And it came with a lot of acclaim and a lot of sort of accolades attached to it.
I didn't like it to that level. I think it's a very finely made film. And I would recommend it that if you are someone who likes to see offbeat films, and offbeat stories, please do go watch it. I would just like to mention the three main cast members Sparsh Srivastav plays the bereaved husband, uh, The, the first lead is, uh, an actress called Prathiba Ranta or Ranta, however you pronounce it.
And the other, uh, woman who, who, who is supposed to be his wife is played by Netanshi Goyal. Um, so very quickly, the two tracks run parallelly. One is that this, Uh, husband has taken a wrong wife to the village and the [00:35:00] villages are horrified. Then parallelly, you also follow the actual bride who was actually landed up on another wrong station.
And there she gets taken care of by this sort of, uh, this woman who has a on the station. And she, uh, fries pakoras and she's like the. Sort of matriarchal feminist figure who, uh, who has gotten rid of her own family because her father used to abuse her. And she says things like, uh, because basically she tries to say that marriage is a trap to sort of make the patriarchal structure going on.
So that was really refreshing to see that the person saying these things isn't like a trap. teacher or a, or like an elite woman saying these things to her. It's not that she's
Nainika Rathore: educated. She's just seen enough life and understood this. She's
Abbas Momin: not seen enough light and she creates a little family unit with her and the beggars on the, on the platform and all of that.
So that was quite sweet. So I think. [00:36:00] Uh, certainly this film makes a lot of points, uh, through its visual language. Uh, it's, it's a good movie. I just don't think it's as great or I didn't love it as much as some people seem to have. I think the hype for it has
Nainika Rathore: been there. Like people have been really commending about how wonderful it is.
And I do like to see like a woman centric film come up, especially one that captures the life of like the middle India, I guess. Um, I do love seeing cinema about women and their interior lives. And, uh, I mean, uh, the, the film, which one was the one, the one that was based on Ship of Theseus, I think it was called Ship of Theseus.
Yeah, that one was really blasted to hell and back for being like pretentious cinema, whatever. But I do still, I think I do believe in Kiran Rao's worldview and her movie making promise. So I do feel like this will be an interesting watch. I just unfortunately couldn't go to the theater. I was not well, but whenever I can catch it, I think I will.
Abbas Momin: Yeah, I think part of the idea that or part of the reason why I think [00:37:00] maybe I wasn't as impressed by it as some others might also have to do with the fact that I'm watching it as a man, because there, there's literally instances in the movie where a female character asks another female character to And I thought that was a little too on the nose, but a friend of mine who I watched it with was a female friend of mine.
She said, no, it's she liked it because it was literally addressing those things head on rather than keeping it somewhere in the background so that it can't be said. Um, but yeah, I mean, it is a very. Fiercely. It's staunchly feminist film, and it is funny also. It's not serious. It, I mean, it's a, it's funny and it's feel good.
So unlike Dobie Hack, which was a very, a very sad film, . So, uh, laal Ladies is, uh, is a recommendation from me. Maybe if you heard so much acclaim, just keep your expectations. Yes, put your expectations a little, but it'll
Nainika Rathore: be a fun watch Netflix, but definitely
Abbas Momin: watch it. Let's, uh, read another subscriber letter.
This comes from. [00:38:00] K. It just says K. Uh, and K asks, why have you spent three episodes reviewing the same bad movie, Animal? Episode 331, 332, and 340.
Nainika Rathore: I love the brevity, K. Um, and I think the reason we've been talking about it so much is because Animal was sort of, it wasn't just a movie, let's be honest, it was the biggest release of 2023.
For India, at least it was unfortunately, yeah, it was unfortunately culturally rather powerful. So I just felt like it made sense to sort of talk about it to have everyone's opinion, the rotating cast of everyone who features on the show should at least, you know, get in a word edgewise about what they thought of
Abbas Momin: the show.
Essentially what Lapata Ladies does for women, Animal did for men. Absolutely.
Nainika Rathore: Staunchly meninist film.
Abbas Momin: Did we? I don't think we spoke about it. We haven't
Nainika Rathore: spoken about it. I did have the wonderful privilege. Do you want to piss off Kay
Abbas Momin: even more and do just that? No, no, no. Let's
Nainika Rathore: not. I don't want to give that man any more screen time [00:39:00] than he deserves.
So let's not. We have better things to talk about.
Abbas Momin: Can I just say, so on my podcast, we had Rag Man, come on, and his, his physical look is represent, uh, is resembling a lot, uh, with the Director of Animal. So when I put up the posters and like, people were like, yeah, people were like, wow guys, you got Sunga?
And I was like, no, sorry to disappoint you. It just, uh, unfortunately it's uh, one of the other. Leading podcasters of India, but, uh, uh, but that's, that's okay. Animal is closed unless when, when they come up with animal house, which is apparently cause it's going to be the sequel.
Nainika Rathore: Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to go watch the sequel and laugh as much as I did in the first movie.
So
Abbas Momin: when that comes around, we'll actually not just people who come on ANA, just the whole news laundry team should give their, we should
Nainika Rathore: have like one of those street style interviews, but we're interviewing everyone in the NL office.
Abbas Momin: Yes. All of them. Men and women,
Nainika Rathore: men and women, very important men, women, and the non [00:40:00] binary friends of us.
Abbas Momin: Everyone, everyone gets in a word
Nainika Rathore: edgewise.
Abbas Momin: A film that Nainika was able to watch, The Holdovers, which has quite a lot of Oscar buzz. I think it, Paul Giamatti is nominated for best actor. One of the supporting actor nominations are also in the movie and the film has got really good reviews. I was not able to catch it unfortunately, but Nainika, what is the Holdovers?
And what did you think of it?
Nainika Rathore: Oh, my God. I think it's the years only just started, but it definitely will feature like right up there in my list of the most beautiful movies I have watched in this year. And it's directed by Alexander Payne. It stars Paul Giamatti. And the film is about the unlikely bond between a cranky history teacher and his troublemaking student.
When they like the school essentially shuts down for Christmas break, and one student is left behind and Paul Giamatti is forced to stay back as his caretaker. And oh my god, what a movie. Oh my god. So I, uh, just as somebody who is familiar with [00:41:00] the, you know, the environment of a boarding school, I was quite curious to watch and see where it goes.
And the movie is so beautifully made. It happens in some boarding school in Canada. Somewhere in Massachusetts, I guess, because the closest city was Boston in the movie, so I'm presuming that's where it was. And Paul Giamatti has been there for like really, really long. He was a student at the school and now he's a teacher here.
And the boy in question is played by Dominic Sessa. Who, it's his first film actually. He was just like, he randomly showed up to the, to the auditions one day and they liked him so much. They casted him in this really important role in the movie. And, uh, it's, uh, he's just, you know, he's slightly like a troubled child in the sense he's bounced around from one school to the another.
And a lot of his stories not revealed in the beginning. It is just that he keeps being bounced around from school and he has a warning from his parents. Um, his stepdad and his mom essentially. that if you mess up here and you get thrown out of here, we're going to send you to the military academy, the nearest military academy, your schooling is done for essentially.
So he gets left behind at Christmas, him and a few [00:42:00] other boys, and uh, he essentially gets left behind because his mom is like, okay, Christmas break is, I just recently gotten married to my new husband and Christmas break is the first time I have to actually finish my honeymoon, which I couldn't otherwise, so I'm going to go with him and can you please stay back at school?
And he's obviously devastated, um, him and some other boys, but all those other boys Take off on like a skiing trip of their own. And, uh, only Dominic Cesar and the teacher, Paul Gia left behind along with one caretaker at the school and is just insane. Like, uh, because these two are sort of in a crazy, like a, you know, like a Stockholm syndrome situation with each other.
They just sort of start opening up to each other, telling each other about lives, about, you know how when you're a teacher and you spend so much time around young kids, you sort of tend to like. become a proxy parent, um, in the sense that you understand that they're, you know, these are children that have like innocent lives, but you also have to be a little matronly towards them.
You have to take care of them. So they build this, like this bond sort of thaws out over time. And he's a very cranky guy. He's just like, you know, [00:43:00] spurned by life, the teacher. So when he sort of decides to warm up to this boy and be nice to him, it's kind of, you know, out of character for him. And he sort of has his redemption through that, and the boy for the first time in his life has somebody believing in him as a teacher, as like an adult, because he's usually considered a problem child, so it's very beautiful to have an adult who actually believes in you and doesn't just see you as a problem child.
Sir, I don't understand. That's glaringly apparent. I can't fail this class. Oh, don't sell yourself short, Mr. Coates, I truly believe that you can.
trailer: Every year at Barton Academy, students, faculty, and staff depart the campus for a two week winter break. But there are always an unfortunate few who have nowhere to go for the holidays.
They're known as the Holdovers. Mr. Hundum. Hello, Mary. I heard you got stuck with babysitting duty this year. How'd you manage that? You know, he used to be a student, right? Yeah, that's why he knows how to inflict maximum pain
Nainika Rathore: on us. So I thought the movie was brilliantly made. The dialogue was [00:44:00] wonderful. I feel like, you know, because again, I keep saying this, when I do truly watch something good, I realize how bad the bad things are because it really pales in comparison that you have such beautiful characterization, genuinely good dialogue, beautiful settings.
I think it's shot on like a film camera. I know it has that soft focus essentially to it because the movie is taking some time. I think it's 1970s because they show the moon landing in it. So it's, it's some time like 1970s, early 1970s. And oh my God, what a beautifully done movie. The school is quite beautiful.
Whatever, you know, access to the buildings that they have shown in the movie itself and the characterization, the costumes, the conversations, the, the references they make, all of it is beautiful. If you, if it's still playing in theaters near you and you have time. Please, please go and watch it. I specifically set aside a weekend just to be like, okay, one of these days I have to go watch The Holdovers because I was so excited for it.
So if it's still playing near you, please go watch it. Otherwise, if it's not playing near you, please catch it on your [00:45:00] streaming wherever you can. It's not a movie to be missed. Just it's worth the Oscar hype it is generating. And, uh, yeah, I mean, I feel like movies this beautiful, this emotionally honest, this wonderful are like really rare.
They're once in a, I know once in a few years. So please, please, please go watch it is all I'm going to say,
Abbas Momin: um, the actress who's, uh, uh, nominated for a supporting actress, uh, category is Devin Joy Randolph. And the film is directed by Alexander Payne, who's also done two other films that I really liked.
One is called sideways, which is also, which also started Paul Giamatti and the descendants, which stars George Clooney. Yes. Uh, and it's set in Hawaii. I think those two films are also really beautiful. So you
Nainika Rathore: can clearly tell that it's a good director doing this job and it's worthy of, uh, you know, your attention.
Abbas Momin: I love, uh, grumpy professors turning into like, uh, slightly nicer men. Yeah, you know, having
Nainika Rathore: their redemption. I do miss having grumpy teachers, but unfortunately, even though I tried to give them grace, as much grace [00:46:00] as a stupid 14 year old can. Unfortunately, you've never had the redemption cycle with any of them.
But I did have good relationships with my teachers. And I do sort of understand that, you know, when you're in an environment clearly away from your parents, your teachers sort of turn into these proxy parent figures, which is a huge responsibility to have on because children tend to like. Children tend to idealize, children also tend to not have a view of what it means to be kind in relationships or non punishing in relationships.
So they either tend to put you on a pedestal and when you sort of fall off that pedestal they become cruel and disenchanted by you. So it's a very emotionally very difficult position to take and I feel like very few people can actually take on the emotional load of being teachers. And I guess this movie is also a little bit honest to that.
So.
trailer: Okay,
Nainika Rathore: so I guess if it does that good of a job, you should 100 percent go and watch it. And yeah,
Abbas Momin: I will. Yes. Uh, so yeah, both. I think everything we mentioned today has been the recommendation from the
Nainika Rathore: Ananthambani wedding. We can't recommend that. I'm
Abbas Momin: recommending it. Go watch interview with Ananthambani [00:47:00] and go watch Rihanna's videos on her social media.
Did you see Karan Johar has put up like a, like a Properly produced, uh, pre wedding video, uh, like a high production quality on his Instagram. So go watch that as well.
Nainika Rathore: Hamari
Abbas Momin: shadi ke video, post production video is like some Chandu video wala, there is pre wedding post production. No Abbas, you're,
Nainika Rathore: you're Bombay, you're Bombay royalty.
You should have one of your director friends come in with their film camera and shoot the wedding.
Abbas Momin: Hey man, I'm not getting married anytime soon. Okay. I'm in the prime of my youth. All right. Please.
Nainika Rathore: Okay. Whenever you do get married, I hope you get one of your film camera friends to come and make an hour guard black and white film, which celebrates the union, Alex,
Abbas Momin: Alex, Alexander paid to actually,
Nainika Rathore: yeah, he'd make a dark comedy about, you know, my marriage, all of the weird, funny bits around that should be fun.
All of my life. Actually. Wait, if you could. Quick question to the [00:48:00] listeners. If you could have one movie director, direct your post wedding, your wedding film or whatever, which one would it be? But that's
Abbas Momin: a, that's a very, that's a very simple answer, right? Suraj Bajatia, who made Hum Aapke Hain. That is not the same answer.
Nainika Rathore: That's the, that's your default answer. I would get David Kronberg to make like a very weird body horror movie surrounding my wedding. Uh, cause why not? Might as well go all in. So yeah, so Abbas, your answer. I don't know what your Your answer is Suraj Bharjatya. I am getting David Cronenberg to make my wedding film.
Abbas Momin: Okay, from Bollywood it'll be Suraj Bharjatya. If I had to do like a Hollywood director Let's, let's go for the big lie. I'll get Quentin Tarantino to direct my wedding. You'll get Quentin
Nainika Rathore: Tarantino to direct your wedding. I am so into it. Quentin Tarantino, don't you remember Kill Bill? You
Abbas Momin: know what? Kill Bill Jhoota Chori sequence will be epic.
Nainika Rathore: Okay. Oh my god. You did not just say that. Yeah, Kill Bill. Quentin Tarantino would be really focused on the Juta Chirai seat because he has a, he has a, well I think about feet fetish. [00:49:00] Yeah. He has a foot fetish. So wow. That is very interesting. That is very incisive. Um, insight you had. Yeah. So I would get,
Abbas Momin: you know, what will be hilarious is next week when Abhinandan and Rajashree are doing the show.
And they're like, why are people sending us wedding directors who would they like to direct their wedding?
Nainika Rathore: Yeah. I think if I, would you get Anurag Kashyap to direct your wedding video? He's lost his. Charm of late. But I feel like he could do it. He lost his charm
Abbas Momin: a little bit. Um, not really. The divorce maybe.
Nainika Rathore: The divorce maybe. Fair, fair, fair. Okay. So I'll get David Kronberg to direct mine. You'll get either Suraj Bajrate or Quentin Tarantino. If you're listening to this, please write us, write to us and tell us about who you'd get. Which director would you get to direct your wedding video?
Abbas Momin: Ready video. Yes. Yeah.
Very important. But yeah, that brings us to the end of this week's episode. Uh, before we wrap up, I just like to plug my own podcast, which is called hazard aged. Well, uh, do check it out on YouTube. If you check it out, if you type in hazard age, well, it'll show up on YouTube. Or if you're listening to us on audio, uh, check out IBM [00:50:00] pop on Spotify or Apple podcasts.
wherever else you get your podcasts and you will be able to find the hazardable episodes there. Or you can also find the link for my podcast in the show notes of this very episode. So that will make things easier for you. Uh, follow me on social media. I'm at a bus moment on Twitter and a bus moment 88 on Instagram, uh, Neneka's mutuals, uh, will be on my timeline because I read them very often.
Okay, then. Uh, all right, then. Uh, thanks, Mr. Athar.
Nainika Rathore: Thank you, Mr. Moment.
Abbas Momin: And that's a wrap.
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