Author Lauren Groff creates a medieval matriarchy for the ages in 'Matrix'

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Author Lauren Groff's desire to run away to a "lesbian utopia" during the Trump administration was the unexpected spark for her latest novel, "Matrix", which plunges readers into the lives of nuns in medieval England. She joins us to talk about the influence of poetess Marie de France, and the power and productivity at the heart of the religious community she conjures up in her novel. We also talk about attitudes to sexuality during the last millennia, and why the politics of Florida governor Ron DeSantis are not only dangerous to book lovers but to all children enrolled in public schools in the state.