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Michael Hogan

Actor Bel Powley: ‘I’d shied away from second world war stories – it’s always all about men’

Bel Powley
Bel Powley photographed in New York for the Observer by Maria Spann. Photograph: Maria Spann/The Observer

Isobel “Bel” Powley, 31, was born in west London. In 2016 she was Bafta-nominated for The Diary of a Teenage Girl and shortlisted for a British independent film award for playing Princess Margaret in A Royal Night Out. Subsequent film roles include The King of Staten Island and Mary Shelley, where she met her fiance, actor Douglas Booth. On TV, she’s starred in The Morning Show and Dolly Alderton’s Everything I Know About Love. She now plays Hermine “Miep” Gies in miniseries A Small Light, based on the true story of the young woman who hid the Frank family during the second world war and preserved Anne’s diary.

Were you familiar with Miep Gies’s story?
I’d read Anne Frank’s diary as a kid, and I’m Jewish myself, so you grow up with this weight of history running through your family, but I knew nothing about Miep Gies. I was offered the role on Holocaust Memorial Day, which felt kind of special, but was genuinely like: Who is that? Nor did I know about the occupation of the Netherlands and the Dutch resistance. The first thing I did was get my butt over to Amsterdam. It’s a city that operates in a very specific way – everyone cycles everywhere, it’s built on waterways – so I immersed myself in how it feels to live there. I visited the Anne Frank museum, obviously, but also went to Miep’s old apartment and cycled the same routes as her. That was my springboard for working on this.

Are there Jewish refugees in your family tree?
No, but my great-grandparents left the border of Lithuania during the pogroms of the early 20th century. They boarded a boat to America but got off at the fuelling stop in Dublin, thinking they were in New York. I’m not joking! My grandmother was born in Dublin and spoke Yiddish with a thick Irish accent. She had friends and cousins in Auschwitz but she was safe in Dublin during the Holocaust. I’m getting my Irish passport now, thanks to her.

Bel Powley alongside Reese Witherspoon in The Morning Show.
Alongside Reese Witherspoon in The Morning Show. Photograph: Landmark Media/Alamy

Was Miep Gies a reluctant heroine?
She was an ordinary young woman in an extraordinary circumstance. She had this unwavering sense of justice and did the right thing without hesitation. Miep’s mantra for the rest of her life was: “Please don’t call me a hero. I did my duty as a human being and was just helping friends in need.”

The series feels fairly contemporary for a period drama. Was that a draw for you?
It was one of my main reasons for taking the job. Previously I’d shied away from period drama. I often find myself feeling quite distanced from them. Language is a barrier, the costumes feel very rigid and I found it hard to access characters. But A Small Light’s scripts removed those hurdles. We were allowed freedom with the way we spoke. It wasn’t that classic dusty period drama-type speech. We could also improvise, which added to the naturalism.

Miep feels like a modern woman…
She was, for her time. When she fell in love with her husband, Jan [played by Joe Cole], he was still married, but separated. She didn’t want kids and didn’t have them until much later in life. And Otto Frank [Liev Schreiber] was a man 20 years her senior but they were best friends. There’s something very ahead of its time about that.

Was it refreshing to tell a war story from a female viewpoint?
That’s another reason why I’d shied away from second world war stories – because it’s always all about men. I have a small part in Masters of the Air, Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks’s Band of Brothers sequel [streaming soon on Apple TV+]. The show is fantastic but it’s still about men at war. I have one of two leading female roles in an ensemble cast. So another thing that excited me about A Small Light was it’s completely told from a woman’s perspective. I’ve been working for 15 years now and I’m always searching for roles like this.

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Are its themes relevant today?
There are so many parallels with what’s happening today. Authoritarian regimes are popping up all over the world. Antisemitism is massively on the rise. There are more displaced people now than ever. In some ways, this could be seen as a cautionary tale, about the dangers of dictatorships scapegoating groups of people. In the opening episode, Miep’s like: “Of course Hitler’s not going to come here. We’re a liberal country. The Queen says we’re going to be neutral.” By the next scene, there’s Nazi occupation. It’s reminiscent of what happened in Ukraine last year. Historical drama has to be relatable. Audiences need to connect it to now, otherwise what’s the point?

The sex scenes between Miep and Jan feel very natural. Have intimacy coordinators transformed the way you work?
We had one, but it probably wasn’t that necessary on A Small Light. It’s not like there was any nudity, and by then I felt incredibly comfortable with Joe. But post-#MeToo, on projects that have been more explicit, it makes all the difference. It’s reassuring to know there’s someone whose job is to have your back. When I was younger, there was stuff I probably didn’t want to do, but was too scared to say no. Intimacy coordinators take that fear away. You bypass anyone you might be nervous to talk to. It also helps with choreographing sex scenes, like it’s a fight or a dance. It’s like: “OK, put your leg there, then kiss for three seconds.” It takes the awkwardness out of a situation that is already pretty weird.

How was it working alongside Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon on The Morning Show?
I was so scared. It was all very Hollywood and they’re living legends who I’ve looked up to my whole life. I was in awe, especially with Jennifer. I’m a millennial woman so I grew up watching Friends on E4 every day after school. The only other time I’ve been starstruck was when I met Matt LeBlanc, so it’s definitely a Friends thing. For the first month, I was so shy that I didn’t really talk. But Jennifer and Reese were so lovely and kind. They’re complete powerhouses and were very hands-on producing the show, as well as being in every scene, so I learned a lot.

Powley, second from right, in the TV adaptation of Dolly Alderton’s Everything I Know About Love.
Powley, second from right, in the TV adaptation of Dolly Alderton’s Everything I Know About Love. Photograph: BBC/PA

You played the protagonist’s best friend in the BBC adaptation of Dolly Alderton’s Everything I Know About Love. Were you a fan of the book already?
Huge fan. When I first read Dolly’s book, way before it was adapted for TV, I thought: “I’d love to play Farly.” [She became Birdy on screen.] When I heard about the series, I got straight on the phone to my agent. I love stories of female friendship and lived with my closest friend for eight years, so it resonated on many levels. I also related to Birdy in that I’m definitely the anal, organised, stressy one. Afterwards I got amazing responses from the Jewish community. People were so happy there was a Jewish character on the show, but it’s incidental. I was adamant she’d wear her Star of David, like I did when I was younger, but the show doesn’t focus on her Jewishness. It’s just a side point, which was kind of cool.

Your fiance is actor Douglas Booth. Is it easier to date fellow actors?
Definitely. You just have to find the right one! If you work away a lot and your partner doesn’t, it can be hard. But we both get it and endeavour to stick together as much as we can. We discuss each job, pick them carefully and travel together whenever we can.

You starred in The King of Staten Island, opposite Pete Davidson. After Ariana Grande, Kate Beckinsale, Phoebe Dynevor and Kim Kardashian, who should he date next?
[Laughs] I don’t know! Someone else nice? I loved working on that film. Pete’s an old friend of Doug, so doing comedy with a mate was really fun. As much as I do love doing heavy drama like A Small Light, I also enjoy the other end of the spectrum. Judd Apatow is an all-time favourite director of mine, so it was a dream come true.

How do you relax when you’re not working?
My sister has an 18-month-old son and I’m completely besotted with him, so mainly I volunteer to babysit. When you’re away so much and lead this kind of nomadic lifestyle, all you really want to do is be at home, eating pasta with your mates and watching Succession.

  • A Small Light premieres on Monday 1 May on National Geographic and streams from Tuesday 2 May on Disney+

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