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Gemma Ware, Editor and Co-Host, The Conversation Weekly Podcast, The Conversation

A tale of two cities: why Indonesia is planning a new capital on Borneo – and abandoning Jakarta. Podcast

An artistic impression of Indonesia's new presidential palace, designed by the artist Nyoman Nuarta. nyoman_nuarta via Instagram

Indonesia plans to move its capital city from Jakarta on the island of Java to a new forest city on the island of Borneo called Nusantara. We talk to three experts in urban planning and ecology to find out why – and what the environmental impacts of the project could be.

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